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Well we don't have those numbers available to us.
We also don't have the numbers of interactions that result in
arrest, or violence by the police or violence by the civilian.
By the way, the ways by which police forces report data is not consistent, not comprehensive and the FBI has no way of enforcing the standards. Without consistent reliable data, it makes it harder to evaluate and understand whats going on...which many police services prefer. Did you know that the reporting of shootings by police is under reported because of this situation?
What we only have are the numbers for worst possible result. A death. And when the worst happens, 95% of the time its happening to the civilian. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that when an encounter between police and civilians results in a death - 95% of the time its the civilian. The Civilian is at much greater risk. The rationale that police are risking their lives constantly may be true. But the risk is greatly exaggerated when you consider the ratio of deadly outcomes.
What is increasingly clear, is that cell phones ubiquity and the ability to video record has shown that when violent interactions between police and civilians occurs - often the police act without cause and without justification.
You think that if Floyd's murder hadn't been recorded that there would have been charges?
Technology has provided civilians a way to hold to account the actions of police in a way that they haven't been held to account.
It was Rodney Kings beating that was the first incident of a recording and it lead to the LA riots...What all of the recordings do for people who have had decades of bad encounters with police is confirm their negative experiences. What it does for people who have not had bad experiences with police is open there eyes to the reality of such an event. And makes them consider that perhaps the people who are supposed to serve and protect need more accountability and better training, And that the apparent impunity with which the organizations operate needs to evolve towards more transparent justice.
Secondly, the number quoted by RickyP is minute compared to the number of interactions with the police
Well we don't have those numbers available to us.
We also don't have the numbers of interactions that result in
arrest, or violence by the police or violence by the civilian.
By the way, the ways by which police forces report data is not consistent, not comprehensive and the FBI has no way of enforcing the standards. Without consistent reliable data, it makes it harder to evaluate and understand whats going on...which many police services prefer. Did you know that the reporting of shootings by police is under reported because of this situation?
What we only have are the numbers for worst possible result. A death. And when the worst happens, 95% of the time its happening to the civilian. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that when an encounter between police and civilians results in a death - 95% of the time its the civilian. The Civilian is at much greater risk. The rationale that police are risking their lives constantly may be true. But the risk is greatly exaggerated when you consider the ratio of deadly outcomes.
What is increasingly clear, is that cell phones ubiquity and the ability to video record has shown that when violent interactions between police and civilians occurs - often the police act without cause and without justification.
You think that if Floyd's murder hadn't been recorded that there would have been charges?
Technology has provided civilians a way to hold to account the actions of police in a way that they haven't been held to account.
It was Rodney Kings beating that was the first incident of a recording and it lead to the LA riots...What all of the recordings do for people who have had decades of bad encounters with police is confirm their negative experiences. What it does for people who have not had bad experiences with police is open there eyes to the reality of such an event. And makes them consider that perhaps the people who are supposed to serve and protect need more accountability and better training, And that the apparent impunity with which the organizations operate needs to evolve towards more transparent justice.