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07 May 2013, 9:59 am
A member of the RNC said about President Obama in 2011, "“In about 18 months from now, hopefully we’ll have sent President Obama back to wherever the hell he came from."
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07 May 2013, 10:44 am
If you want to make it racist, it COULD have been meant that way, but this is a very common saying that would not normally be thought as racist. Wherever the hell he came from?
Hades?
The Moon?
Hawaii/Illinois/Kenya/Indonesia?
The looney bin?
why must it be racist?
But when you change the story to what was said and by whom...
Said to an Indian American, it does seem a bit more racist no doubt, but still, I think it's reading into it a bit too much.
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07 May 2013, 11:13 am
In bald text, not sure.
It is about context. In the UK, telling someone of colour to "go back where they came from" is indeed common, but would be often taken as racist. Adding 'wherever the hell' would seem to make it worse.
Whether racist in intent or not, it's damn rude.
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07 May 2013, 11:37 am
Rude ...you bet
Damn Rude ...even better!
Racist ...touchy there, maybe, maybe even "probably" but not for certain.
But this story should also make note that it was said by someone who has made several racist statements in the past, that makes this claim even more likely so!
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07 May 2013, 11:41 am
The speaker certainly seems to be implying that Obama is "foreign", "different", "not like us". In other words, he is saying Obama is "the other". Whether it is about race or just about race, the speaker is saying Obama is not of "our group". I don't think it is acceptable to refer to someone that way, even if you can't explicitly tie the speakers motivations to racism. And, given that he was president when the statement was made, I think it is even more objectionable. A person who is president has reached about as high a status as you can reach in our society and to not grant him that status is objectionable (and lends support to the idea that the speaker is racist).
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07 May 2013, 11:51 am
Who said it?
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07 May 2013, 11:56 am
I certainly hope that the person was not implying that a government elected official would be going back to Indonesia, Kenya, India or anywhere. I agree with Danivon. It is rude to talk about an executive branch official in such manner.
Regardless of what sex the person is...
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07 May 2013, 12:51 pm
freeman2 wrote:The speaker certainly seems to be implying that Obama is "foreign", "different", "not like us". In other words, he is saying Obama is "the other". Whether it is about race or just about race, the speaker is saying Obama is not of "our group". I don't think it is acceptable to refer to someone that way, even if you can't explicitly tie the speakers motivations to racism. And, given that he was president when the statement was made, I think it is even more objectionable. A person who is president has reached about as high a status as you can reach in our society and to not grant him that status is objectionable (and lends support to the idea that the speaker is racist).
Brad seems to have known this was a ruse, but it was so nice of freeman2 to take the bait.
South Carolina Democratic Party chairman Dick Harpootlian, who said Friday that he intends to help send Indian-American Republican Gov. Nikki Haley “back to wherever the hell she came from,” was a major campaign bundler who raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for President Barack Obama, records reveal.
Obama has yet to condemn Harpootlian’s statement, which a Haley spokesman called “the lowest common denominator.”
Harpootlian made his remark at the South Carolina Democratic Party’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner Friday, shortly before a speech by Vice President Joe Biden. Harpootlian introduced 2014 Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Vincent Sheehen with the controversial remark.
“In about 18 months from now, hopefully he’ll have sent Nikki Haley back to wherever the hell she came from,” Harpootlian said as the crowd reportedly broke into cheers and applause.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/06/democ ... undraiser/ Where is the liberal media, the one who screamed about "birtherism," on this?
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07 May 2013, 12:58 pm
Yes, I did know it was a ruse. Hapootlian's comments were something I heard about from a friend of mine in Goose Creek, SC.
I hope everyone can see that people should be treated equally, and nobody gets special treatment or persecution; regardless of where they are born or what makes them different. I look forward to a day where all men are judged on their actions.
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07 May 2013, 1:11 pm
Gee I don't know, you said it came from the RNC. That is not a ruse; that's a lie. I wondered what your motivation was in posting that alleged statement, but I did not think that someone on this site would post an out-right lie in order to make a point. I was wrong.
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07 May 2013, 1:11 pm
bbauska wrote:Yes, I did know it was a ruse. Hapootlian's comments were something I heard about from a friend of mine in Goose Creek, SC.
I hope everyone can see that people should be treated equally, and nobody gets special treatment or persecution; regardless of where they are born or what makes them different. I look forward to a day where all men are judged on their actions.
More here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... acist.htmlDemocrats should be embarrassed.
Maybe, just maybe, they'll learn to start thinking about the glass house they live in before casting stones.
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07 May 2013, 1:15 pm
freeman2 wrote:Gee I don't know, you said it came from the RNC. That is not a ruse; that's a lie. I wondered what your motivation was in posting that alleged statement, but I did not think that someone on this site would post an out-right lie in order to make a point. I was wrong.
Lo siento.
I mean that.
However, I hope you can see beyond my dishonesty to the bigger point.
Bill Richardson on Ted Cruz, "“He’s anti-immigration. Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform,” Richardson said. “I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... -hispanic/Democrats are the party of character assassination. If you are a minority and not a Democrat, watch out! They don't want to debate ideas; they want to destroy you. If that means questioning your origin or your ethnicity, it's all "fair game."
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07 May 2013, 1:28 pm
Oh I'm sure that one statement is equivalent to all of the birthing arguments and many, many disrespectful comments made about President Obama. I don't know why you were bothered when Danivon called you a liar, though. Apparently, it is not a big deal.
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07 May 2013, 1:31 pm
freeman2 wrote:Oh I'm sure that one statement is equivalent to all of the birthing arguments and many, many disrespectful comments made about President Obama. I don't know why you were bothered when Danivon called you a liar, though. Apparently, it is not a big deal.
Mr. Trees, I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Forest.
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07 May 2013, 1:39 pm
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/RuseI chose the word ruse, as it was the most specific. My response was an attempt to get people to see that not only one side of the political spectrum is "snow white".
"a move made to gain a tactical end" is the definition. He used it that way. Your surprise that people lie on the internet is amusing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_IUmmm, Bon Jour...