18 Mar 2013, 11:50 pm
CPAC participant touts the benefits of slavery...http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/0 ... ?mobile=wp
In a minority outreach panel--too funny.
In a minority outreach panel--too funny.
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19 Mar 2013, 7:07 am
What makes it funny?
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19 Mar 2013, 7:53 am
A jackass spewing drivel is not too funny to me either.
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19 Mar 2013, 8:51 am
More Ironic than funny. Reports I saw had that it was two guys, but that they are fairly well known as white 'nationalist' and slavery apologists from previous statements and actions. Not sure how discriminating CPAC is of attendees, but I certainly can see why they and the wider conservative movement would not be happy about the outburst.
The discussion the two hecklers interrupted was interesting, though. It does highlight how much the Republicans (and Democrats) have changed since Douglass was around.
The discussion the two hecklers interrupted was interesting, though. It does highlight how much the Republicans (and Democrats) have changed since Douglass was around.
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19 Mar 2013, 9:05 am
My sense wathcing the video is that the vast majority of other CPAC members thought the two were outrageous. The moderator tried to engage their questions seriously. It's a tough spot to be in.
The comments on the website are interesting. Many seem to think that this is fully representative of the conservative movement. To me that seems very provincial and an example of their narrowmindedness. Sure there are Republicans who are racist, but to think that is the mainstream Republican view suggests to me that they are living in their own bubble.
The comments on the website are interesting. Many seem to think that this is fully representative of the conservative movement. To me that seems very provincial and an example of their narrowmindedness. Sure there are Republicans who are racist, but to think that is the mainstream Republican view suggests to me that they are living in their own bubble.
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19 Mar 2013, 10:18 am
Oh, so I should be on the defensive here? t's not someone from my party saying these outrageous things. Yeah, a lot of Republicans are reasonable people but a certain part of the base is not and it is not a small part of the party (witness some of the outrageous things said by Republican candidates during the last election). Also see this further discussion about the minority outreach panel.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013 ... arrive.php
Apparently, attendees were not mad at the guys making racist comments they were mad at the reasonable person (well, in that context--the reasonable person, Brown, said that there is no doubt that white males are getting beat up right now...)
These people are so loony and outrageous, I guess funny is not the word since if they had power they would be really scary, that they are really beyond my comprehension.
By the way, A Washington Post-ABC poll had support for background checks at 91%, yet 8 Republicans on the Senate Judiciary committee voted against it. Yeah, the Republican Party doesn't listen to a crazy section of the base at all...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013 ... arrive.php
Apparently, attendees were not mad at the guys making racist comments they were mad at the reasonable person (well, in that context--the reasonable person, Brown, said that there is no doubt that white males are getting beat up right now...)
These people are so loony and outrageous, I guess funny is not the word since if they had power they would be really scary, that they are really beyond my comprehension.
By the way, A Washington Post-ABC poll had support for background checks at 91%, yet 8 Republicans on the Senate Judiciary committee voted against it. Yeah, the Republican Party doesn't listen to a crazy section of the base at all...
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19 Mar 2013, 11:07 am
Why are you feeling defensive?
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19 Mar 2013, 11:13 am
Apparently, attendees were not mad at the guys making racist comments they were mad at the reasonable person
It didn't seem that way to me as I watched the video. It seemed like many people thought he was ridiculous.
Here are some of the comments from the article. What do you make of them:
I don't think listening to anything would change their Single Cell brain.
good thing it wasn't in private, he probably would have hit her!
It is what Bill Maher once said, something like: "Not all Republicans are racists, but racists are more than likely to be Republicans".
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I respectfully disagree with Bill on this one. I know a lot of republicans, all of them - to a one- are racist. Some are just better at hiding it.
No -- I don't agree this is a "typical" Republican. Typical Republicans talk in code words and dog whistles. They're rarely this blatant in their racism.
There probably are a lot of silent T-party folks who agree. Let's get them their own country! and out OF OURS!
Let's juts give them Texas and be done with it!
and this, when all is said and done, is what the GOP boils down to...
The present-day Republican Party has become the party of Jefferson Davis.
It's scary that people this racist are allowed to vote
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Or breed...
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There you have it. The true face of Romney, Rubio, Ryan, Paul, and all the rest. Take a good look.
"The panel continued to be racked controversy, as an African-American audience member repeatedly challenged the racism on display at this event." -- An African-American attending CPAC... I just don't get it. Was he/she there because of agreement with the general conservative ideology of CPAC?
GOP = KKK MESSAGE!
You know, it's always that Anglo-Saxons who dwell at the bottom of their gene pool that are always the bellicose racists. Why is that? I bet this dude is into making his own booze, barn yard animal erotica and watching deliverance over and over again.
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19 Mar 2013, 11:41 am
Internet comments are always a little scary, especially when they are responding to something so provocative. I think what happened at CPAC is more significant than internet comments. I am not sure audience response is the best gauge (who are they responding to, how many are there voicing disapproval) of how most attendees felt, but I don't know how many people were interviewed so I can't say the post-interview sample is significant, either. In any case, I don't see Democrats responding to the far left wing of their party, whereas the Republican Party seems very hesitant to offend the far-right wing of their party.
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19 Mar 2013, 12:44 pm
Democrats and Republicans are both so similar, making them out to be significantly different is pure nonsense. We have no racist Democrats? There are no racist blacks? Democrats have their own far left nutjobs as do the Republican far right nutjobs and how many Dems speak out about Barney Frank's nonsense? How many speak up vs Al Sharpton? it's all the same, crazy idiots on both sides, to pretend they don't exist on "your side" is just plain dumb as some of these posts you have provided show. Why is everything so polar opposite any more? Why is it all Republicans are tea party, bible thumping, pro war gun loving, antiabortion crazies in the eyes of liberals ...we have no room for anything other than this stereotype, yet gee, I happen to be one of those guys who doesn't fall in line with these foolish assumptions, both parties are the same when it comes to foolishness.
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19 Mar 2013, 1:03 pm
Barney Frank?
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Barney Frank is nuts, how many Democrats are that eager to disagree with him and what he says? or is HE typical of the Democratic party and reflects your views perfectly?
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19 Mar 2013, 1:22 pm
I do agree with you that Al Sharpton is a good example. He's said some fairly anti-semitic things. So has Jesse Jackson. I remember that he did extremely well in the Democratic Presidential primaries in spite of calling NYC Hymietown.
But what makes Barney Frank nuts? He is not a racist. He's partisan. He's liberal. But that's different than what I thought we are talking about: bigotry, narrow mindedness, racism. Here's an apropos quote from B. Frank:
But what makes Barney Frank nuts? He is not a racist. He's partisan. He's liberal. But that's different than what I thought we are talking about: bigotry, narrow mindedness, racism. Here's an apropos quote from B. Frank:
The left and the right live in parallel universes. The right listens to talk radio, the left's on the Internet and they just reinforce one another. They have no sense of reality.
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19 Mar 2013, 3:00 pm
I was speaking of generalities, how we have some liberal posters (not here, but rather in the link provided) trying to paint all Republicans in one way. They ignore facts and instead lump all Republicans together, then we had someone here mention how Democrats were more willing to accept opposite views ...both parties are remarkably similar yet we have those who want to believe otherwise. Do ALL dems agree with everything Frank says? ...of course not.
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19 Mar 2013, 4:35 pm
Every time some Republican says some outrageous thing, we get the counter that the Democrats have the same lunatic fringe. It's all equal, they cancel each other. I find that argument unconvincing. You're talking huge, complex organizations--it defies common sense that they are going to be exactly equal in it's far left vs far right components. I understand it's a good tactic just to pick out a few leftists and say they are equal to the far-right wing--however that doesn't mean it's accurate. Moreover, the views of the far right affects the Republican Party far more than leftists affect the Democratic Party. I pointed out the example of Republican senators not voting for gun control checks when there is 90 percent approval. Republicans' immigration policy is affected by the far-right base; even though Republicans want to appeal to Hispanic voters they are having difficulty going very far because they don't want to alienate the right-wing base. How about taxes? Again there is the dogma of no net increase in taxes (from the far-right wing base) that has made it very difficult for Republicans to make a deal on deficit reduction. Name one issue where the views of left-wingers have prevented Obama from doing anything. You can't because there is not one such issue. So, no, each party's crazies don't cancel each other out, because ours don't affect policy and theirs do.
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