No, the full post issue is notwithstanding the 1st paragraph. I was talking about his additions to the postings. Anyway, you are welcome for the support.

With that clarification, I do thank you.

Also someone can hit preview and use the 'save as draft' choice. That allows you to think your post over and decide if the nasty parts need to be snipped. Sometimes a bit of delay in posting helps me.

Back to topic. Ricky, do you understand that an AR-15 is no more and automatic weapon than an M1 rifle from WW2? Yes, it looks like the military issue AR15/M4 which has a switch on it that allows it to go from semi-automatic to fully automatic, but James Holmes did not have such a weapon.

I know it fires a round for every squeeze of the trigger and that it can fire 50 to 60 rounds a second. And that until 1994 it was banned from general sale to the public under what was known as the assault weapons ban. So quibble if you will... but the law considered it an assault rifle.
ruffhaus

Everyone is fixated on the 'assault weapon' issue here, but a crazed gunman firing a shotgun with birdshot into a movie theater would do far more damage. I think Holmes was carrying and used a shotgun as well, but the discussion for some reason some much better to gun grabbers if they can call something an "assault weapon

".
yeah, well he was way ahead of you....

It appears, the police say, that James E. Holmes, the man accused in the Aurora shootings, used all three types of weapons inside the theater as well, first firing the shotgun, then using the semiautomatic rifle until its 100-round barrel magazine jammed, and finishing off with a pistol. (A second .40-caliber pistol was also found at the scene, though it was unclear whether it had been used in the theater.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/us/au ... senal.html.

There were 62 people killed or wounded, after his shotgun was empty, he proceeded to use his AR15, so he did enough damage with the AR15 to impress just about anyone but you I guess? ....
For all the scenarios that anti gun law fanatics choose, most are currently available. And yet when the lunatics decide to act out, most choose guns. Perhaps they understand the weapons are easier to use then all the fantastical options anti gun law people offer up?
The question is not why is society plagued with lunatics, the question is why is it so easy for these lunatics to arm themselves in ways that make killing so many in so short a span of time so easy?
Perhaps Chris Rock has the solution, put a tax on bullets at $100 a bullet. It would take a while to save enough for those high capacity magazines...
You owe Danivon an apology

Aaaaaand I think I've seen enough from this thread.

Have fun guys.

rickyp wrote:

Back to topic. Ricky, do you understand that an AR-15 is no more and automatic weapon than an M1 rifle from WW2? Yes, it looks like the military issue AR15/M4 which has a switch on it that allows it to go from semi-automatic to fully automatic, but James Holmes did not have such a weapon.

I know it fires a round for every squeeze of the trigger and that it can fire 50 to 60 rounds a second

You err. Think for a moment.

One round per pull of the trigger. You think someone can pull that trigger fifty to 60 times a second?

Really?

That is called "Semi-Automatic".

RickyP, what do you possibly mean?

ruffhaus abd bbauska

Ricky, do you understand that an AR-15 is no more and automatic weapon than an M1 rifle from WW2?

By the way Ruff and B.... I have never refered to the AR-15 as an automatic weapon. At least on this thread. Which is all I could check. So I'm not sure why you cast that straw man...

And yes, Fate I think someone could squeeze a trigger 50 to 60 times, because the newspaper reports have said this is possible.
If he could only squeeze the trigger 40 times, I doubt the damage would have been significantly less.
I'm not sure why you guys fnd these incremental differences significant.

Ricky, you need to read your own posts more carefully.

tell you what Ray, prove me wrong,
you cut and paste or link from where I called an AR15 an automatic on this thread...
there's only two comments on page 1 so it shouldn't take you long.

RickyP,
Have you ever fired a weapon? OMG, you make some of the most asinine declarations without knowledge sometimes. I think you are talking out your *** on this one. Your statement about 50-60 times a SECOND is unsupportable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_fire

Semi-Automatic rate

The semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm.

I am going to give you an out on this one. Just say that you meant "Round per minute, not rounds per second".

Then claim the metric conversion for time was wrong...

jeez, try to help the guy ...

rickyp wrote:And yes, Fate I think someone could squeeze a trigger 50 to 60 times, because the newspaper reports have said this is possible.
If he could only squeeze the trigger 40 times, I doubt the damage would have been significantly less.
I'm not sure why you guys fnd these incremental differences significant.

That makes it a semi-automatic weapon. Those are very common.

To shift things a bit, in keeping with what I've said before--someone bent on mass murder will do it, gun control or not.

A dozen hospitals in seven states are scrambling to identify people who might have been infected with hepatitis C by a traveling medical technician who was charged a week ago with causing an outbreak in New Hampshire.

With details of David Kwiatkowski’s resume still emerging, a hospital official in Arizona said he had been fired from her facility in April 2010, after he was found unresponsive in a men’s locker room with syringes and needles. Kwiatkowski was treated at the hospital, and tests showed he had cocaine and marijuana in his system, said Monica Bowman, chief executive officer of the Arizona Heart Hospital.

Kwiatkowski, 33, is accused of stealing anesthetic drugs from Exeter Hospital in New Hampshire and contaminating syringes used on patients. His same strain of hepatitis C, a blood-borne viral infection that can cause liver disease and chronic health issues, has been diagnosed in 30 of the patients.

Testing has been recommended for about 4,700 people in New Hampshire alone, and officials are still determining who should be tested elsewhere. In addition to Arizona, hospitals and state health agencies have confirmed that Kwiatkowski also worked in Georgia, Kansas, Maryland, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania before being hired in New Hampshire in April 2011.

There is no telling how many might die all across the country (and maybe beyond) because some may have spread the disease without knowing. Well, at least he didn't have a gun!

Ray Jay wrote:jeez, try to help the guy ...

If you're not licensed as a psychiatrist, you may be in trouble . . .

Ray Jay wrote:jeez, try to help the guy ...

Help me then. I can't see where Ricky called it an automatic. I can see the use of 'assault', and several mentions of the clip size, but not 'automatic' without the use of 'semi-' in front of it. Not from Ricky anyway. He hasn't retro-fixed any posts either.

Now, I am looking using a phone, so I may be missing something. If so, please show me where I am wrong. Either it's your cognitive dissonance or mine that's in play here.