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- Purple
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14 Jul 2012, 3:34 pm
Fate and RickyP: It's somewhat amusing watching you two go at it
in the middle of July, commenting on the two campaigns and the direction they are taking. You're pretty much the only two people in the world who are paying any attention. The voting public in the USA isn't paying attention yet, and won't until August 27th, when the GOP convention kicks off.
If the election were like a prize fight, you two are manic ringside commentators who have gotten yourselves in a sweat from talking so fast... about the demeanor of the fighters as they walk up the aisle toward the ring.
Knocks yourselves out, boys. You're the real entertainment!
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14 Jul 2012, 3:57 pm
Purple wrote:Fate and RickyP: It's somewhat amusing watching you two go at it in the middle of July, commenting on the two campaigns and the direction they are taking. !
Oh it's even better then that. Ricky created a thread in April that said that Obama already had it sewn up and that there is nothing, barring some major outside event, that Romney can do to change that.
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14 Jul 2012, 4:58 pm
Purple wrote:Knocks yourselves out, boys. You're the real entertainment!
For me, it's fairly basic: I understand politics ain't beanbag. However, for a candidate to lie so outrageously is a sign of desperation.
This op-ed says it well:Barack Obama has developed quite a record as a liar. He lied for more than a decade about where he was born. He lied about many aspects of his life in his fictional “memoir.” He lied about his Chicago years and has activities and associations there. (Has anyone ever asked the question, what did Obama do when he lived in Chicago, and whom did he know there, since it seems that all of the activities and associations of which we have a record are now, as Nixon might say, inoperative.) To answer my own question, I think a candidate likely can lie his way into office, but I doubt that in incumbent president can lie his way to re-election. For the first time in his life, apparently, Barack Obama has a record.
Which doesn’t stop him from trying. The Obama campaign’s current Bain Capital smear, which many media outlets have taken up, ranks with Quemoy, Matsu and Checkers as absurd campaign “issues.” But it is all that a flailing, out-of-ammo campaign has to offer.
For Obama to complain about "openness" and "taking responsibility" is rich.
How many things can we name about Obama that are sealed?
How about his real estate deal with Rezko?
Dealings with Blago?
The guy is the king of sketchy.
If Obama ran on the issues and defeated Romney, well, my hats off to him. The fact is that he is the biggest failure since Carter, so he has to attack like a rabid dog, hoping the slobber will scare enough people into voting for him--or at least not voting for the other guy.
His campaign is beneath contempt.
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14 Jul 2012, 6:48 pm
arch
Oh it's even better then that. Ricky created a thread in April that said that Obama already had it sewn up and that there is nothing, barring some major outside event, that Romney can do to change that
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So far so good.
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14 Jul 2012, 8:05 pm
rickyp wrote:arch
Oh it's even better then that. Ricky created a thread in April that said that Obama already had it sewn up and that there is nothing, barring some major outside event, that Romney can do to change that
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So far so good.
Yeah, you know it's "sewn up" when your ratings are lower than Bush's at this point in his presidency, you're running even with someone many Americans have never heard of, and you're having to lie to stay even.
Gallup 2004 Approve/Disapprove/No Opinion:
2004 Jul 19-21 49/47/4
You are Jay Carney, who is only no longer a rodeo clown because Joe Biden plays second fiddle to no one.
When Romney wins, the only thing that will be better is when he signs the bill defunding Obamacare.
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15 Jul 2012, 1:32 am
Purple - now I knopw why I don't care for boxing.
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16 Jul 2012, 5:16 pm
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Oh it's even better then that. Ricky created a thread in April that said that Obama already had it sewn up and that there is nothing, barring some major outside event, that Romney can do to change that
I made a pretty strong arguement in April that the electorate had pretty much made their choice, and that the narrative of the election was going to work against Mitt so the small undecided group wasn't going to be won by him in the large majority he needed....
But of course there are always surprises. But are they going to come from Obama or from the guy who won't release his tax records, or bank accounts. ?
Turns out that even when he was in that vague " not really in charge but still owner of Bain" state
he was indisputedly in charge of things in Salt Lake City that are turning out to be embarressing surprises.
Yes, nothing says US capitalism like making the 2002 Olympic Torchbearers uniforms with slave labour in an embargoed military dictatorship ....
If this isn't just the icing on the "job producers" cake.....
http://www.cleanclothes.org/newslist/151http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1835Obama doesn't need breaks like this... and yet....
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16 Jul 2012, 6:46 pm
It's hard for me to imagine that anyone would see that as material, except for the most hard core of Democrats.
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17 Jul 2012, 6:33 am
ray
It's hard for me to imagine that anyone would see that as material
What, you think people don't pay attention to items in the news that begin with "Olympics" and end with "slave labour?"
Its all about his image as a jobs producing business man with the business skills required to heal the nations economy. An image central to his whole rationale for election.
Between his wavering positions on Bain, his refusal to release his tax records and details of his off shore holdings, and now this....his strength is now a weakness.
How do you know its working? Karl Rove says it isn't and Obama should stop....
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- Ray Jay
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17 Jul 2012, 6:40 am
The irony in how you purposefully misquote me speaks volumes.
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17 Jul 2012, 7:42 am
In what way am I misquoting you? The definiion of material that pertains is one of the two below...right? Or do you have some other definiton...
noun:
a group of ideas, facts, data, etc., that may provide the basis for or be incorporated into some integrated work: to gather material for a history of North Carolina; to write material for a comedy show.
adjective
of substantial import; of much consequence; important: Your support will make a material difference in the success of our program.
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17 Jul 2012, 7:45 am
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17 Jul 2012, 8:02 am
rickyp wrote:arch
Oh it's even better then that. Ricky created a thread in April that said that Obama already had it sewn up and that there is nothing, barring some major outside event, that Romney can do to change that
I made a pretty strong arguement in April that the electorate had pretty much made their choice, and that the narrative of the election was going to work against Mitt so the small undecided group wasn't going to be won by him in the large majority he needed....
But of course there are always surprises. But are they going to come from Obama or from the guy who won't release his tax records, or bank accounts. ?
Turns out that even when he was in that vague " not really in charge but still owner of Bain" state
he was indisputedly in charge of things in Salt Lake City that are turning out to be embarressing surprises.
Yes, nothing says US capitalism like making the 2002 Olympic Torchbearers uniforms with slave labour in an embargoed military dictatorship ....
If this isn't just the icing on the "job producers" cake.....
http://www.cleanclothes.org/newslist/151http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1835Obama doesn't need breaks like this... and yet....
Right, because he is running on his stellar record.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but you've got a real opportunity in stand-up. Anyone who has such a tin ear should surely try to cash in on it.
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17 Jul 2012, 8:59 am
Actually Bbauska I'm quoting a
defintion.the formal statement of the meaning or significance of a word, phrase, idiom, etc., as found in dictionaries. An online dictionary resource, such as Dictionary.com, can give users direct, immediate access to the definitions of a term, allowing them to compare definitions from various dictionaries and stay up to date with an ever-expanding vocabulary
This is different than
grammar. the study of the way the sentences of a language are constructed; morphology and syntax.
these features or constructions themselves: English grammar
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17 Jul 2012, 9:04 am
Ricky:
In what way am I misquoting you?
You left this off of my statement: "except for the most hard core of Democrats."
I think that the tax returns are of importance ... I'm not sure about the 2 year gap on Bain ... but the olympics using Burmese products strikes me as minutia.