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Actually Ray, there is something special here.... I appreciate that you think by expanding upon my reference to the tax rules of amortization you are somehow demonstrating great insight. You aren’t. All you are doing is reiterating what I concisely pointed towards, without commenting on the comparison I made.
You haven't explained why the oil companies SHOULD get the amortization that they get. I've said it’s not in line with other durable goods (like airplanes) and therefore represents a form of subsidy. That’s the point of critics of all these breaks, who claim that they represent $10 to $52 billion in lost taxes every year. (also known as subsidies).
If you can explain why they should get the special treatment, you have a real argument. Otherwise you are fudging a response .....
Ray
And how's that working out?
ray
And gee I think debate and argument as give and take where people actually can learn something.
Like where you learned that the median income for Americans was higher in 19999 than 10 years later.... And for the entire decade in between... (Without producing an insight or admission that there were specific policies that created this regression for which prior government was responsible ...)
You've already said that oil shouldn't be subsidized...haven't you? And yet you've expended a lot of time to quibble about the nature and size of the (tax breaks) subsidies... I learned a lot from your arguments. What I didn't learn was why even a small subsidy for oil should be maintained. Even $1. . Oil companies battle every day to maintain these tax advantages (and I don't blame them, as I do the same every year when I file taxes)... But there seems to be little genuine rationale for their special treatment, At least when there is a specific subsidy or grant for a new energy development, it comes with a set of rationales and goals for the investment. (Development of new technology and industry, weaning the US from imports and from oil generally...)
Oil industrialists end up resorting to the argument that "government shouldn't be picking winners and losers" which is fine. But when they have enjoyed a favorable tax status since the tax code was "simplified" it seems to me that they were picked as a winner then and that was okay with them...
.. I just don't see why. Especially as they are so damned profitable...
Ricky, all tangible non-real property is under accelerated depreciation in the US; it's been that way since the 1970's. Since the 1980's it's called the Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System. Airplanes also last longer than 20 years. Under the IRS rules, if the property is expected to last between 10 and 16 years, it is assigned a 7 year life. Office equipment, desks, files and safes are all considered 7 year property although many of these items will last much longer. There's nothing special hear for the oil industry
Actually Ray, there is something special here.... I appreciate that you think by expanding upon my reference to the tax rules of amortization you are somehow demonstrating great insight. You aren’t. All you are doing is reiterating what I concisely pointed towards, without commenting on the comparison I made.
You haven't explained why the oil companies SHOULD get the amortization that they get. I've said it’s not in line with other durable goods (like airplanes) and therefore represents a form of subsidy. That’s the point of critics of all these breaks, who claim that they represent $10 to $52 billion in lost taxes every year. (also known as subsidies).
If you can explain why they should get the special treatment, you have a real argument. Otherwise you are fudging a response .....
Ray
But the IRS/Congress did this many years ago to simplify our tax rules.
And how's that working out?
ray
.By the way, you are the master of argument creep, in both senses of the word
And gee I think debate and argument as give and take where people actually can learn something.
Like where you learned that the median income for Americans was higher in 19999 than 10 years later.... And for the entire decade in between... (Without producing an insight or admission that there were specific policies that created this regression for which prior government was responsible ...)
You've already said that oil shouldn't be subsidized...haven't you? And yet you've expended a lot of time to quibble about the nature and size of the (tax breaks) subsidies... I learned a lot from your arguments. What I didn't learn was why even a small subsidy for oil should be maintained. Even $1. . Oil companies battle every day to maintain these tax advantages (and I don't blame them, as I do the same every year when I file taxes)... But there seems to be little genuine rationale for their special treatment, At least when there is a specific subsidy or grant for a new energy development, it comes with a set of rationales and goals for the investment. (Development of new technology and industry, weaning the US from imports and from oil generally...)
Oil industrialists end up resorting to the argument that "government shouldn't be picking winners and losers" which is fine. But when they have enjoyed a favorable tax status since the tax code was "simplified" it seems to me that they were picked as a winner then and that was okay with them...
.. I just don't see why. Especially as they are so damned profitable...