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Post 06 Jul 2013, 9:16 am

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In other words, and I know it's exceptionally difficult to connect the dots, the Pentagon is not cooperating


And the lack of cooperation comes down to not providing a forwarding address?
How could anyone ever over come such nefarious behaviour?
google search? Maybe he's on linked in? Facebook?
411.com ?
broadcasting appeals through the media on help locating him?

it's not like there's any evidence they've sent him to the witness protection program or to Dick Cheneys undisclosed location...
Unless you are a conspiracy theorist. Then there's a lot here.... Get out the tin foil hats.
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Post 06 Jul 2013, 9:36 am

rickyp wrote:fate
In other words, and I know it's exceptionally difficult to connect the dots, the Pentagon is not cooperating


And the lack of cooperation comes down to not providing a forwarding address?
How could anyone ever over come such nefarious behaviour?
google search? Maybe he's on linked in? Facebook?
411.com ?
broadcasting appeals through the media on help locating him?

it's not like there's any evidence they've sent him to the witness protection program or to Dick Cheneys undisclosed location...
Unless you are a conspiracy theorist. Then there's a lot here.... Get out the tin foil hats.


Put one on your keyboard. It will help you write more sensibly. Everything you just wrote is idiotic.
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 1:58 am

bbauska wrote:Dept. of Defense personnel who have retired, are obligated to provide address updates. The DOD has this info.

What is the sanction if retirees don't? Who checks that they do?
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 7:33 am

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Everything you just wrote is idiotic.


Whats idiotic is thinking that George Bristol can't be found without the DOD's forwarding his last listed address.
Whats completely baffling is why anyone thinks the DOD believes that not forwarding his address is an effective deterrent against his being found. They may be sticklers for legal details, but they surely don't think that Congress is completely without the intelectual know how or resources to find one retired officer....

Then again, we are talking about House Republicans...
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 8:22 am

One thing is for sure--he has an address to send his pension checks to! Just subpeona the custodian of records at the pentagon--I'm sure they will come up with his address, then. Or have an investigator look for him. How embarrassing--stop whining and show a little initiative and intelligence House Republicans
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 8:26 am

Cheques? Don't you guy have pensions via direct electronic payments yet?
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 8:40 am

danivon wrote:Cheques? Don't you guy have pensions via direct electronic payments yet?


Yes we do.

Just because an address if "findable" does not exempt the DOD from assisting congress.
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 9:08 am

Might be privacy issues as well. That is why you use the subpeona.
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 11:34 am

rickyp wrote:fate
Everything you just wrote is idiotic.


Whats idiotic is thinking that George Bristol can't be found without the DOD's forwarding his last listed address.
Whats completely baffling is why anyone thinks the DOD believes that not forwarding his address is an effective deterrent against his being found. They may be sticklers for legal details, but they surely don't think that Congress is completely without the intelectual know how or resources to find one retired officer....

Then again, we are talking about House Republicans...


Oh, you are so funny! Wait. I have to repair my sides--they just split!

Let's see . . . Republicans to Pentagon, "Hey, we need an address."

Pentagon: "Sorry, we don't have one."

That's just not true.

Furthermore, how many George Bristols are there in the US? Is Congress supposed to go through each one?

Hey, why not call the NSA? I'm sure they know.

This really isn't difficult: the Pentagon is stalling.

Privacy issues? Please.
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 1:43 pm

Uh, well, not so long ago I had to do a motion to compel to get the addresses of former employees of a business because of privacy issues. If
Congress is serious about getting the address they will use the subpeona power. I don't see where it says the DOD is required to turn over the addresses of former employees because Congress informally asks for them. If they are serious about talking to this guy they' have a legal way of gaining compliance. Instead they go whining to the press and DF is implying that it is a conspiracy to prevent this guy from talking to Congress. Pathetic. Stop whining and use the powers that the Constitution gave you. Or don't but at least don't be a whiny b---- about it. For goodness sake, these are the leaders of our country?
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Post 07 Jul 2013, 7:41 pm

Well, I WAS going to contribute something, until I realized the topic was an Epic Scandal and not an Epic Sandal. Never mind.
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Post 31 Jul 2013, 3:41 pm

Oh, THAT George Bristol. Not the retired one. You meant the other one! Wow... What an easy mistake. I can see how that happened.

Really? You could not find the address or information of a Marine Corps commander?

Does this look misleading to anyone else?
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Post 02 Aug 2013, 8:33 am

georgeatkins wrote:Well, I WAS going to contribute something, until I realized the topic was an Epic Scandal and not an Epic Sandal. Never mind.


Yeah, no cover-up here. The Administration has been as transparent as . . . coal.

Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency's missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency's workings.

The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress.

It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career.

In exclusive communications obtained by CNN, one insider writes, "You don't jeopardize yourself, you jeopardize your family as well."

Another says, "You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation."

"Agency employees typically are polygraphed every three to four years. Never more than that," said former CIA operative and CNN analyst Robert Baer.

In other words, the rate of the kind of polygraphs alleged by sources is rare.

"If somebody is being polygraphed every month, or every two months it's called an issue polygraph, and that means that the polygraph division suspects something, or they're looking for something, or they're on a fishing expedition. But it's absolutely not routine at all to be polygraphed monthly, or bi-monthly," said Baer.

. . .

Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.

A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.

While it is still not known how many of them were CIA, a source tells CNN that 21 Americans were working in the building known as the annex, believed to be run by the agency.

The lack of information and pressure to silence CIA operatives is disturbing to U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf, whose district includes CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.


We'll get there. The only question is will it be before Jan. 20, 2017?
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Post 05 Sep 2014, 5:54 am

CAIRO — Five commandos guarding the C.I.A. base in Benghazi, Libya, in September 2012 say that the C.I.A. station chief stopped them from interceding in time to save the lives of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and an American technician during the attack on the diplomatic mission there.

In a new book scheduled for release next week and obtained by The New York Times, the commandos say they protested repeatedly as the station chief ordered them to wait in their vehicles, fully armed, for 20 minutes while the attack on the diplomatic mission was unfolding less than a mile away.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/world ... .html?_r=0

how come this never came out in the extensive hearings?
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Post 05 Sep 2014, 6:58 am

rickyp wrote:
CAIRO — Five commandos guarding the C.I.A. base in Benghazi, Libya, in September 2012 say that the C.I.A. station chief stopped them from interceding in time to save the lives of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and an American technician during the attack on the diplomatic mission there.

In a new book scheduled for release next week and obtained by The New York Times, the commandos say they protested repeatedly as the station chief ordered them to wait in their vehicles, fully armed, for 20 minutes while the attack on the diplomatic mission was unfolding less than a mile away.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/world ... .html?_r=0

how come this never came out in the extensive hearings?


Great question. Who told the station chief? More reasons to have a full investigative hearing.