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- rickyp
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24 Aug 2013, 8:26 am
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Why did the President leap to promote Trayvon's victimhood?
He wasn't a victim?
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- bbauska
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24 Aug 2013, 8:29 am
rickyp wrote:fate
Why did the President leap to promote Trayvon's victimhood?
He wasn't a victim?
Why did he not call the other two victims named? Trayvon was a victim, albeit partially responsible. Why did the POTUS not call Belton's family?
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- rickyp
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24 Aug 2013, 8:44 am
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Why did he not call the other two victims named? Trayvon was a victim, albeit partially responsible. Why did the POTUS not call Belton's family?
Are you sure he hasn't communicated with either?
I think that he could be very busy calling up the victims of violent crimes ...... He's probably limited to the nortorious high profile cases that have been elevated by the media - and to which he gets media questions....
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24 Aug 2013, 9:53 am
rickyp wrote:bbauska
Why did he not call the other two victims named? Trayvon was a victim, albeit partially responsible. Why did the POTUS not call Belton's family?
Are you sure he hasn't communicated with either?
I think that he could be very busy calling up the victims of violent crimes ...... He's probably limited to the nortorious high profile cases that have been elevated by the media - and to which he gets media questions....
He broadcasted the fact he called the family of Trayvon, and has not said anything about calling either of the recent black on white murders that are "high profile". Why the difference?
All three are high profile.
All three had a victim.
Could it be because a gun was used? No, Chris Lane was killed with a gun.
Why the difference?
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24 Aug 2013, 10:18 am
rickyp wrote:fate
Why did the President leap to promote Trayvon's victimhood?
He wasn't a victim?
Was he?
The answer is "no one knows."
We do know there was no crime committed--at least none that can be proven.
We do know that Trayvon died.
We don't know how responsible he was for that happening. It could be "not at all" or "mostly." Whoever says they know is making it up.
If he was "mostly" responsible, then he was not a victim at all. However, we don't KNOW.
What we do know is that President Obama personalized the incident by saying Trayvon looks like what his son would look like, if he had a son. He made no similar comment about Zimmerman. In other words, the President "knew" who the victim was before the trial.
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- Neal Anderth
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09 Sep 2013, 1:34 pm
BURN!Zimmerman in custody after knife/gun incident with wife and father-in-law.
Is this like the Michael Douglas movie 'Falling Down'?
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09 Sep 2013, 3:14 pm
Neal Anderth wrote:BURN!Zimmerman in custody after knife/gun incident with wife and father-in-law.
Is this like the Michael Douglas movie 'Falling Down'?
I'm sure that we can find evidence they got suspended from school and so deserved it.
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09 Sep 2013, 4:49 pm
Well, well...Zimmerman accused of another violent act...Just more evidence that he should have been convicted in the Trayvon Martin case
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09 Sep 2013, 5:07 pm
freeman3 wrote:Well, well...Zimmerman accused of another violent act...Just more evidence that he should have been convicted in the Trayvon Martin case
No, it's no more "evidence" than when he saved a family from a burning car.
It appears to be a divorce settlement dispute. No charges . . . yet.
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09 Sep 2013, 5:08 pm
that's right because he did something wrong in one circumstance means he must be guilty in all cases. That's how it works right? Oh wait a minute, these two have nothing to do with one another now do they? It's EXACTLY the same as how much of what Trayvon Martin had done was not allowed to be heard in that other case. Funny how what happened to Trayvon had nothing to do with his guilt yet for Zimmerman it does matter?
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09 Sep 2013, 6:15 pm
Well there is evidence--the 911 call.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3895831And, no, Tom I don't think the vague allegations against Trayvon Martin are comparable To Zimmerman's wife saying that Zimmerman punched her father in the nose and threatened them with his hand on a gun. By the way, that could be charged as a felony assault with a deadly weapon and felony terrorist threats.
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09 Sep 2013, 6:26 pm
freeman3 wrote:Well there is evidence--the 911 call.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3895831And, no, Tom I don't think the vague allegations against Trayvon Martin are comparable To Zimmerman's wife saying that Zimmerman punched her father in the nose and threatened them with his hand on a gun. By the way, that could be charged as a felony assault with a deadly weapon and felony terrorist threats.
The father-in-law and wife signed forms declining to press charges.
That 911 call is evidence of an angry woman getting a divorce. Shocking.
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09 Sep 2013, 6:52 pm
It's very common for people not to want go through domestic violence prosecutions once they have had time to think about it. It does not mean what she said on the 911 call did not happen (and the law itself tends to credit statements made at or near time of a stressful event, hence the spontaneous declaration exception to the hearsay rule)
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09 Sep 2013, 6:55 pm
freeman3 wrote:It's very common for people not to want go through domestic violence prosecutions once they have had time to think about it. It does not mean what she said on the 911 call did not happen (and the law itself tends to credit statements made at or near time of a stressful event, hence the spontaneous declaration exception to the hearsay rule)
Please, wake us when charges are filed.
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09 Sep 2013, 7:22 pm
You can't wake someone up who is determined to remain asleep
