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- geojanes
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25 Oct 2012, 2:24 pm
Doctor Fate wrote:Again, I ask: what do we make of KEEPING Biden as VP with regard to the President's judgment?
That he feels very, very healthy?
Seriously, Biden may very well be a useful political tool when governing. He knows everybody and you can send Biden to the Hill to do some dirty work that very few other people can do.
President Biden scares the crap out of me. Vice President Biden doesn't.
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25 Oct 2012, 2:47 pm
geojanes wrote:Doctor Fate wrote:Again, I ask: what do we make of KEEPING Biden as VP with regard to the President's judgment?
That he feels very, very healthy?
Brilliant!
Seriously, Biden may very well be a useful political tool when governing. He knows everybody and you can send Biden to the Hill to do some dirty work that very few other people can do.
President Biden scares the crap out of me. Vice President Biden doesn't.
I have been terrified, literally, every time I see the two and think, "Obama smoked. He's black. Those are two risk factors. Please, Lord keep that man healthy!"
One heartbeat.
Biden is well-liked. That much is true, but a heartbeat away?
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25 Oct 2012, 2:51 pm
As for Ohio, this says it all:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... n-ohio.phpIf Romney matches what even the Time poll suggests with indies (and virtually all polls show similar results), he carries Ohio.
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25 Oct 2012, 4:01 pm
New ABC/WaPo shows Romney at 50 nationally, leading by 3.
Sample is D+4
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/25/p ... king-poll/
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25 Oct 2012, 5:56 pm
One thing that had not been discussed is that Obama has more field offices in the battleground states, has done this before, and in 2008 soundly beat McCain in getting out the vote Even Republicans concede he is a better stump speaker I suspect that in the battleground states those polls favoring Obama will be proven to be accurate
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25 Oct 2012, 6:44 pm
freeman2 wrote:One thing that had not been discussed is that Obama has more field offices in the battleground states, has done this before, and in 2008 soundly beat McCain in getting out the vote Even Republicans concede he is a better stump speaker I suspect that in the battleground states those polls favoring Obama will be proven to be accurate
Actually, I read about the field office situation.
Republicans, living under public financing in 2008, learned to organize with far fewer resources. This time, they have close to equal footing financially. However, they aren't putting it into offices, but into actual get out the vote efforts.
The same article described the different approach each is taking on voter turnout. Democrats are "banking" their base, so early voting is heavily skewed toward Obama. Republicans are focused on getting marginal votes early, knowing their base is highly motivated.
I like our chances.
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25 Oct 2012, 7:06 pm
1 in 8 jobs is connected to the auto industry in Ohio. Your guy was on the wrong side of the auto bail-out issue. And he just about has to win ohio to win the election-I certainly like Obama's chances
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25 Oct 2012, 7:43 pm
freeman2 wrote:1 in 8 jobs is connected to the auto industry in Ohio. Your guy was on the wrong side of the auto bail-out issue. And he just about has to win ohio to win the election-I certainly like Obama's chances
Meh.
Your guy lied about what Romney proposed. Do Ohioans like liars? Then there is Obama's war on coal.
The day after the election, my friend, will be a happy day for one of us. I like my chances. You like yours.
We'll see.
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26 Oct 2012, 8:44 am
GDP growth above forecast. Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index up, but not as high as forecast.
If they were different, I could see Romney gaining traction. Are they enough to restore some of Obama's standing in polls? Looking at the polls, Romney has not really gone up since 10 Oct, averaging around 48%. Obama took a hit, and then recovered to about 47%. But a 1% national lead doesn't guarantee anything, if it is caused by gaines in 'safe' states and not in the swing states. The reverse of 2000 is on the cards.
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26 Oct 2012, 12:39 pm
danivon wrote:GDP growth above forecast. Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index up, but not as high as forecast.
If they were different, I could see Romney gaining traction. Are they enough to restore some of Obama's standing in polls? Looking at the polls, Romney has not really gone up since 10 Oct, averaging around 48%. Obama took a hit, and then recovered to about 47%. But a 1% national lead doesn't guarantee anything, if it is caused by gaines in 'safe' states and not in the swing states. The reverse of 2000 is on the cards.
Maybe. I think it's too soon to tell.
Let's put it this way: an incumbent who cannot seem to get above 50% in contested areas is in no way safe. He is the known "commodity."
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26 Oct 2012, 12:41 pm
Well, that's an objective source.
Hey, how about
Obama's lying strategy?If America is looking for a leader, will they choose the man who won't accept responsibility for much of anything?
I guess we'll find out.
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26 Oct 2012, 1:27 pm
I just have to laugh when you say obama is a liar As compared to Romney who is the most deceptive presidential candidate in a long time? Give me a break. If the electorate cared about honesty or manners Romney would be out of this race
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26 Oct 2012, 1:35 pm
freeman2 wrote:I just have to laugh when you say obama is a liar As compared to Romney who is the most deceptive presidential candidate in a long time? Give me a break. If the electorate cared about honesty or manners Romney would be out of this race
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And, Obama would be impeached.
Leading us back to Bdien . . .
Btw, halfway through Woodward's book and I have to say I'm surprised by Biden. As much of a public idiot as he is (how about his comment to the dead former Navy Seal's Dad?), he is a far better behind the scenes negotiator than Obama ever thought of being. I think if he were President, deals would be getting done--and, of course, there would be international incident after incident ("Your Majesty, has your grandson always had such . . . ").
I eagerly await the Obama comeback.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/26/why- ... -is-toast/
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26 Oct 2012, 2:11 pm
Mr Silver indicates that Romney is down to a 27 percent chance of winning You don't need to comeback when you're winning
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.co ... more-36719