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Post 06 Mar 2012, 12:07 pm

There have been many differing opinions of what the Federal Government is to do. Federalists v Democratic-Republican party (Hamilton v Monroe/Jefferson) comes to mind.

I am not an original intent buff. I am a specific language "buff". The Constitution has the ability to change it. I think people who want something changed should amend. It was important enough for Slavery and Suffrage and Prohibition (added and removed!), so I think it is important enough for other issues. That being said, if it is NOT in the Constitution, then it is up to the states, and personal choice.
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Post 06 Mar 2012, 1:40 pm

bbauska wrote:There have been many differing opinions of what the Federal Government is to do. Federalists v Democratic-Republican party (Hamilton v Monroe/Jefferson) comes to mind.
Indeed there have. Point being that the people who helped write the Constitution would be among the most clear about what the intention behind it. If they differed back then, then what does it tell us about the Constitution?

Personally, it's a very clever compromise with enough ambiguity to suit all sides of the 1790s political debate.

I am not an original intent buff. I am a specific language "buff".
Ah. Problem with that being that the language has changed a little since then (so what we define a word to mean may not be the same as what the original authors intended it to mean). Additionally, while some parts are perfectly clear and specific, others are (as I suggest above) ambiguous enough to allow some wiggle room for more than one interpretation.

Still, I wonder - does this mean that you ignore the Federalist Papers, as being superfluous in terms of interpreting the main document?

The Constitution has the ability to change it. I think people who want something changed should amend. It was important enough for Slavery and Suffrage and Prohibition (added and removed!), so I think it is important enough for other issues. That being said, if it is NOT in the Constitution, then it is up to the states, and personal choice.
Point being that prime of those (particularly after the post-Civil War amendments) is the rights of individuals, which it is clearly established are not fully listed.

Prohibition had to be specifically inserted because it was a restriction of individual rights relating to something that had been perfectly legal since before the Revolution. But that doesn't mean that is has to be the same to invoke individual rights that are not listed already.

Suffrage had to be mentioned because it was a transfer of power from the States to determine who had the right to vote and because it was fundamental to the Constitution itself (after all, it's role is to define the government, and that includes how a government is chosen)

Slavery is interesting, though. For about 70 years, despite all that the Constitution says, it was seen as perfectly Constitutional to keep people as slaves. Which to some extent undermines claims that the Constitution as written really does guarantee individual rights all that much. Of course, as well as abolishing Slavery, there was also the 14th Amendment which enforced much of the Bill of Rights upon States.

So, if rights have to be specifically added in order to apply, where does the Constitution currently guarantee that an employer has the right to determine the moral choices of employees?
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Post 06 Mar 2012, 3:59 pm

This was supposed to be a "winning issue" for Republicans and Obama has turned it into a massively positive issue for his campaign and his party... And he might see Limbaugh forced from the air waves as he's lost almost 15 advertisers so far... (Money talks. ask Imus)
I'll bet he achieves over 60% of womens votes. They just need to keep replaying his press conference today in campaign ads.....
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I don't know what's in Rush Limbaugh's heart, so I'm not going to comment on the sincerity of his apology," Obama said. "What I can comment on is the fact that all decent folks can agree on, that the remarks that were made don't have any place in the public discourse. And the reason I called [Fluke] is because I thought about Malia and Sasha, and one of the things I want them to do as they get older is to engage in issues they care about--even ones I may not agree with them on. I want them to be able to speak their mind in a civil and thoughtful way, and I don't want them attacked or called horrible names because they are being good citizens."
Obama said he called Fluke personally on Friday because he wanted to thank her for having the courage to speak out, but also to send a message to all young people that they shouldn't be intimidated by Limbaugh's incendiary remarks and discouraged from taking a stand on issues that are important to them.
"I wanted Sandra to know that I thought her parents should be proud of her and that we want to send a message to all our young people that being part of a democracy involves argument and disagreements and debate," he said. "We want you to be engaged, and there is a way to do it that doesn't involve you being demeaned and insulted.

Women are going to make up their own minds in this election about who is advancing the issues they care most deeply about. One of the things I've learned being married to Michelle is I don't need to tell her what it is she thinks is important, and there are millions of strong women around the country who are going to make their own determination about a whole range of issues. It's not going to be narrowly focused just on contraception, it's not going to be driven by one statement by one radio announcer. It's going to be driven by their view of what's most likely to make sure they can help support their families, make their mortgage payments, who's got a plan to ensure that middle class families are secure over the long term, what's most likely to result in their kids being able to get the education they need to compete, and I believe that Democrats have a better story to tell to women about how we are going to solidify the middle class and grow this economy, make sure everybody has a fair shot, everybody is doing their fair share, and we got a fair set of rules of the road everybody has to follow. So I'm not somebody who believes that women will be single-issue voters, they never have been. But I do think we have a strong story to tell when it comes to women.
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Post 07 Mar 2012, 2:06 pm

Oddly enough Santorum isn't exactly knocking it out of the park with Catholic Republicans:
Rick Santorum, a conservative Catholic who is outspoken about faith-based issues, lost Catholic voters by a wide margin in Ohio on Tuesday, potentially a key factor that allowed Mitt Romney to squeak out the narrowest of victories overall in the state.

According to CNN’s exit polls, Romney took 43% of Ohio Catholics on Super Tuesday, compared to 31% for Rick Santorum, and Romney beat Santorum overall by 38% to 37%.

Catholic voters accounted for a third of Ohio’s Republican electorate, the largest share of Catholics in any Super Tuesday state.

“The margin of Romney’s win among Ohio Catholics is surprising, given Santorum’s traditional Catholicism,” says John Green, a political science professor at the University of Ohio. “Romney’s margin among Ohio Catholics – especially in the three largest metropolitan areas – may account for his close win in Ohio.”

His friendly ties with Opus Dei are more alienating than Romney's Mormonism.

Unlike Opus Dei, most Catholics are wanting to see their faith implemented into public policy.