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Post 23 Feb 2016, 3:39 pm

From your source:

When pressed by CNN, Flynn said, "I don't have any personal evidence" that Clinton or one of her staffers took material off a classified server and put it on an unclassified server
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So, he makes all kind of claims but doesn't actually have any evidence,
And he gets air time for his claims... though he doesn't know anything.
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Post 23 Feb 2016, 3:59 pm

NYT front page article on the Chump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/nyregion/donald-trump-nyc.html?action=click&contentCollection=Health&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

I bet the other candidates pick up on this article and begin using it to their advantage immediately. It will be interesting to hear the Chump respond to the article's claims should the opportunity present itself.
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Post 23 Feb 2016, 4:15 pm

freeman3 wrote:"Barack Obama knows exactly what he is doing"..."Barack Obama knows exactly what he is doing"...Barack Obama knows exactly what he is doing"...Barack Obama knows exactly what he is doing"...


Oh brother.

Sure, he made a mistake. On the other hand, Obama ran on nothing. Look it up: "Hope." "Change."
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Post 23 Feb 2016, 4:32 pm

rickyp wrote:From your source:

When pressed by CNN, Flynn said, "I don't have any personal evidence" that Clinton or one of her staffers took material off a classified server and put it on an unclassified server
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So, he makes all kind of claims but doesn't actually have any evidence,
And he gets air time for his claims... though he doesn't know anything.


Oh my.

Yeah, "all" he did was run the DIA under Obama. He also says it's very likely it was hacked. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ked-andrew

Her defense? Well, it was guarded by the Secret Service.

She's a bozo--either too incompetent to be President, or someone who violated security laws. Take your pick.

Flynn also took issue with Clinton’s explanation that she used the personal e-mail address rather than an official State Department one because she found it convenient to carry just one device. “As a military officer, if I said I was doing something for convenience’s sake to the soldiers I was leading, and it was solely for my convenience instead of their welfare, I should be relieved of duty — I would expect to be fired,” he said.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ked-andrew


And, here's some "right-wing press" going after her:

Emails from Hillary Clinton's home server contained information classified at levels higher than previously known, including a level meant to protect some of the most sensitive U.S. intelligence, according to a document obtained by NBC News.

In a letter to lawmakers, the intelligence community's internal watchdog says some of Clinton's emails contained information classified Top Secret/Special Access Program, a secrecy designation that includes some of the most closely held U.S. intelligence matters.


As usual, you have NO IDEA what you're babbling about.
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Post 23 Feb 2016, 11:49 pm

That's a big win in Nevada for Trump--46%. Starting to feel like it's over. His two biggest competitors have taken extremely damaging hits--Cruz to his character and Rubio to his competence--that they don't seem likely to recover from. A romp on Super Tuesday might end it. Instead of there being a ceiling on Trump's support it looks like Rubio and Cruz have difficulty getting much more than 20% of Republican voters. Even if Cruz or Rubio threw in the towel before Super Tuesday that would likely actually just increase Trump's percentage.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 12:07 am

And it's not looking that great for Sanders, either. South Carolina and several other Southern states on Super Tuesday are likely to go heavily in Hillary's favor and that is going to create a lot of momentum. Polling numbers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/electi ... ion_dates/
And an analysis.http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary- ... d=37136465
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 5:38 am

freeman3 wrote:That's a big win in Nevada for Trump--46%. Starting to feel like it's over. His two biggest competitors have taken extremely damaging hits--Cruz to his character and Rubio to his competence--that they don't seem likely to recover from. A romp on Super Tuesday might end it. Instead of there being a ceiling on Trump's support it looks like Rubio and Cruz have difficulty getting much more than 20% of Republican voters. Even if Cruz or Rubio threw in the towel before Super Tuesday that would likely actually just increase Trump's percentage.


I think you're reading a bit much into a tiny electorate in a caucus State--one in which Trump has considerable appeal (gambling, real estate). This is, other than its Mormon populace, not a very religious State (brothels?).
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 5:39 am

freeman3 wrote:And it's not looking that great for Sanders, either. South Carolina and several other Southern states on Super Tuesday are likely to go heavily in Hillary's favor and that is going to create a lot of momentum. Polling numbers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/electi ... ion_dates/
And an analysis.http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary- ... d=37136465


Sanders has never had a chance. The only thing that can stop Hillary from the nomination is the FBI.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 6:54 am

Fate
He also says it's very likely it was hacked

And then he says he has no evidence of this....
When pressed by CNN, Flynn said, "I don't have any personal evidence"

I understand why you like him.

Fate
Fate
And, here's some "right-wing press" going after her
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Yes. It sounds so definitive...
Charles McCulllough, the intelligence community's inspector general, said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate intelligence and foreign affairs committees that he has received sworn declarations from an intelligence agency he declined to name

Pretty short on details.. no? And when people decline to name "anonymous sources"?

This is a systemic problem... And the IG probably is in a position to have identified it long ago...But didn't. (Nor did the NSA or anyone in cyber security) From your article...

the State Department has long faced the problem of how to communicate about sensitive matters. Unlike the CIA, State does most of its business over an unclassified email system, and many officials do not have easy access to a classified messaging system.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 7:02 am

freeman3 wrote:And it's not looking that great for Sanders, either. South Carolina and several other Southern states on Super Tuesday are likely to go heavily in Hillary's favor and that is going to create a lot of momentum. Polling numbers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/electi ... ion_dates/
And an analysis.http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary- ... d=37136465


Yes, on this post and the one before it ... Clinton vs. Trump ... I'll vote for Kasich on Tuesday, but what's the point?

Does anyone know actual Trump supporters? What do they think he will do on day 1? Is there any evidence that he actually cares about anyone other than himself? His support is across the board, but a big part of it is working class people who are angry at the Republican Party for not taking their issues seriously. Fair enough. But is there any evidence that Trump would take care of them somehow?

Dark times.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 7:39 am

rickyp wrote:Fate
He also says it's very likely it was hacked

And then he says he has no evidence of this....
When pressed by CNN, Flynn said, "I don't have any personal evidence"

I understand why you like him.


Hey rickymoron, who do you suppose knows more about hacking for national secrets--you or General Flynn?

In other words, if we were in a court of law whose EXPERTISE would a jury take into consideration--yours or someone with actual insight?

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Fate
And, here's some "right-wing press" going after her
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Yes. It sounds so definitive...
Charles McCulllough, the intelligence community's inspector general, said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate intelligence and foreign affairs committees that he has received sworn declarations from an intelligence agency he declined to name

Pretty short on details.. no? And when people decline to name "anonymous sources"?


You are either stupid, can't read, or dishonest. Those aren't "anonymous sources." They are known. Their names were not revealed by the IG. That's so they cannot be retaliated against.

This is a systemic problem... And the IG probably is in a position to have identified it long ago...But didn't. (Nor did the NSA or anyone in cyber security) From your article...


No, it's not a "systemic problem." From the article:

Emails from Hillary Clinton's home server contained information classified at levels higher than previously known, including a level meant to protect some of the most sensitive U.S. intelligence, according to a document obtained by NBC News.


It was Clinton's server. Her PRIVATE server. That has NOTHING to do with the "system." It's outside the system.

the State Department has long faced the problem of how to communicate about sensitive matters. Unlike the CIA, State does most of its business over an unclassified email system, and many officials do not have easy access to a classified messaging system.


Absolute obfuscation.

The FREAKING SECRETARY OF STATE is supposed to know what is/is not classified. She is obligated to make notification whenever the classification system is violated, e.g she receives classified information. Read this carefully:

One of the classified email chains discovered on Hillary Clinton’s personal unsecured server discussed an Afghan national’s ties to the CIA and a report that he was on the agency’s payroll, a U.S. government official with knowledge of the document told Fox News.

The discussion of a foreign national working with the U.S. government raises security implications – an executive order signed by President Obama said such unauthorized disclosures are “presumed to cause damage to the national security."

The U.S. government official said the Clinton email exchange, which referred to a New York Times report, was among 29 classified emails recently provided to congressional committees with specific clearances to review them. In that batch were 22 “top secret” exchanges deemed too damaging to national security to release.

Confirmation that one of these exchanges concerned a reported CIA asset means the emails went beyond issues like the drone strike campaign. Democrats repeatedly have said some messages referred to this, reinforcing Clinton's position that the documents are over-classified.


No, it wasn't about an NYT story. The NYT story was referenced in the email, but there were also classified details about a CIA asset.

More:

National security and intelligence experts emphasized to Fox News that security clearance holders are trained to not confirm or deny details of a classified program in an unclassified setting, which would include a personal unsecured email network, even if the classified program appears in press reports.

“The rules of handling classified information dictate if something is reported in open source [news reports] you don’t confirm it because it’s still classified information,” said Dan Maguire, who spent more than four decades handling highly classified programs and specialized in human intelligence operations.

As secretary of state, Clinton signed at least two non-disclosure agreements (NDA) on Jan. 22, 2009, and received a briefing from a security officer whose identity was redacted. As part of the NDA for “sensitive compartmented information” (SCI), Clinton acknowledged any “breach” could result in “termination of my access to SCI and removal from a position of special confidence and trust requiring such access as well as the termination of my employment or any other relationships with any Department or Agency that provides me with access to SCI."

It is remains unclear how classified materials “jumped the gap” from a classified system to her personal server.


Again, why did she have this private server?

According to her, "convenience."

More likely: so she could control information leaks and fight FOIA requests.

Both are illegal.

Have a nice day, safe and secure in your ignorance.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 7:48 am

Ray Jay wrote:I'll vote for Kasich on Tuesday, but what's the point?


I have no idea what the point is. He's not even trying to win.

Seriously, how is he running a national campaign? He is focused on MA, MI, and OH. If he wins all three (which he won't), so what?

I don't understand his campaign. His message is fine, I guess, but there is no plan, no path for him to even challenge for the nomination. He seems to want to negotiate for VP, no matter what he says publicly.

Does anyone know actual Trump supporters?


Sadly, yes.

What do they think he will do on day 1?


Build the wall. Be Trump.

They don't really care. They don't listen. They don't pay attention to what he says. They are the mirror images of Sanders supporters--details don't matter.

Is there any evidence that he actually cares about anyone other than himself?


They believe he loves the country.

His support is across the board, but a big part of it is working class people who are angry at the Republican Party for not taking their issues seriously.


I have one FB friend who is a bit of a player in GOP circles. She is a Trumpian. She's older, wealthier, but angry is definitely the word.

I have other FB friends who are influential in conservative circles. For the most part, they support Cruz. None of them can stand Trump.

Fair enough. But is there any evidence that Trump would take care of them somehow?

Dark times.


Biggest issue for me: character. I trust him to do the right thing a bit more than Hillary, whom I trust a bit more than Obama.

If Biden were pro-life, I would prefer him.
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 12:26 pm

Here comes Trump. Nevada in the bag!
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Post 24 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm

I'll still believe it when I see it. But did you see this article? Trump has personally insulted virtually every Republican who you've heard of. It lists those insults and wonders how he can ever unite the party? I guess it depends on how personally people take his insults.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2016_02/how_will_trump_unite_the_party059723.php
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Post 28 Feb 2016, 6:25 pm

I did see this article Geo. Like all of us, he is a bit more complex than he lets on.