Purple wrote:Most of Africa, most of non-Islamic Asia except China and Japan, and most of South America were all subject to colonialism, have all suffered poverty and poor education, and dictators. Differences? A thousand. And wars are certainly not unknown in these places.

Next you'll ask for a detailed statistical breakout. (At least I would!)
I'm not going to take the time, so you may consider the point conceded.

Summer fun – Narrow hallways, interrogation rooms painted black, isolation cells and handcuffed mannequins – this is all part of the setting of a new summer camp operated by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. ...

Hytham al- Madhun, one of the camp guides, explained that the mock prison set up for the camp is divided into six rooms, each simulating the incarceration conditions of Palestinian prisoners. The first room is an interrogation cell, which is where prisoners are first led once entering the prison. In this room, Madhun describes to the kids "the prisoners' firm resilience in the face of Israeli interrogators' threats and their refusal to admit the charges ascribed to them."

One of the main heroes of the camp is Ibrahim Hamed, who was the head of Hamas' military wing in Ramallah and is responsible for murdering dozens of Israelis. The guides boastfully tell the children how Hamed, who was recently sentenced to 54 life sentences, has continually refused to give his interrogators any information, including his given name.

The children were dressed up in uniforms of Jihad's armed-wing, the al-Quds Brigades, and each of them received a toy rifle. Some of them held up photos of Islamic Jihad founder Fathi Shaqaqi. ...

During the ceremony the children were asked to stand next to mock coffins draped with flags of the various armed factions. The flags bore the images of "shahids (martyrs)." ...

One child, Hamza, said "When I grow up I'll join Islamic Jihad and the al-Quds Brigades. I'll fight the Zionist enemy and fire missiles at it until I die as a shahid and join my father in heaven.

"I love the resistance and the martyrs and Palestine, and I want to blow myself up on Zionists and kill them on a bus in a suicide bombing," he said.

Ray Jay wrote:http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4254113,00.html

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on its website that the attack on a police station in Sinai on Sunday in which 16 policemen were killed "can be attributed to Mossad" and was an attempt to thwart Islamist President Mohamed Morsi's new regime.

The statement claimed that the Israeli intelligence agency was trying to hinder the Egyptian uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in 2011 and that it was "imperative to review clauses" of the 1979 peace treaty between Egypt and Israel.

Now, how much of this is 'Islamic' and how much is about a national or tribal response to perceived oppression?

The new President of Egypt is blaming Israel for a recent terrorist attack. There's no evidence that points to Israel, but it is suits his political purpose

rickyp wrote:ray

The new President of Egypt is blaming Israel for a recent terrorist attack. There's no evidence that points to Israel, but it is suits his political purpose

Where is is quoted as saying this? Your quotation says the Mulim Brotherhood website. That could be down to some junior functionary with access to the web site.
Israel has always served as a great distraction for The Egyptian government.
The Egyptian government is essentially a military dictatorship with a veneer of democracy.
If militants are attacking border posts, its unlikely that the military see this as anything but a direct challenge by Hamas or Hezbollah or Al Queda. (Depending on who is responsible and since the early reports say the attackers included infiltrators from Gaza... )
They'll want the focus on the real threat not the usual bogey man.

The military has said that 35 gunmen attacked an Egyptian border post, killing the 16 before commandeering an armored vehicle they later used to try to storm across the border into Israel. It has accused Palestinians from Gaza of aiding the gunmen, by firing mortar shells at a nearby border cross just as the gunmen were attacking.

The killers are believed to be part of a low-level Islamist insurgency that has been active in Sinai for a decade, and which is allied with al-Qaida-inspired groups of militants in both Gaza and Sinai.

However, this does prove that he is in bed politically with people who are either liars or delusional.

He hasn't contradicted them, probably because he doesn't have the political power to do so.

As for who writes the copy for the Muslim Brotherhood website? Its entirely plausible its just some hot head web master... Lets wait to see..
What you are jumping on is akin to Fox News blaming Muslim terrorists for the latest mass shooting in the US, without checking .

ray

He hasn't contradicted them, probably because he doesn't have the political power to do so.

The army will tell him what to say.

Morsi has sought to reverse ousted leader Hosni Mubarak's hardline policy toward Hamas, promising to ease the hardship endured by Gaza's 1.6 million residents as a result of years of siege by Mubarak's Egypt and his Israeli allies.

He has promised to open the Rafah border crossing - Gazans' only gateway to the outside world - round the clock and allow goods to move to and out of the coastal territory. With their shared enmity for Israel, Morsi and Gaza's rulers had appeared ready to strike an enduring alliance that could only have alarmed many in an Israel already concerned by the rise of Islamists in Egypt.

But Sunday's attack and the Egyptian military's assertion of Palestinian involvement may already have undermined that prospect. If Morsi maintains close ties with Hamas now, he could come under criticism for prioritizing the Brotherhood's agenda over the nation's interests.

Ray Jay wrote:Danivon:

Now, how much of this is 'Islamic' and how much is about a national or tribal response to perceived oppression?

My own take (bias?) is that much of it is Islamic, or at least in the Arab world it is an Arab cultural response. I don't know how you figure that out, but would be open to a study that tries to answer your question.

Really? Saying that the Muslim Brotherhood is responsible for its own website is akin to blaming Muslim Terrorists for a neo-Nazi killing Sikhs? I just don't get where you are coming from. Can someone else help here?

Let me help. You are saying that the MB website represents Morsi's position. NO?

However, this does prove that he is in bed politically with people who are either liars or delusional. He hasn't contradicted them, probably because he doesn't have the politcal power to do so.

He is not even openly contradicting the Muslim Brotherhood who claims that Mossad did this.