Not gonna touch it, your acceptance of terrorists and linking any battle against such terror as terrorists ourselves is immature and not worthy of comment. Go ahead and believe what you like, troll away on your US is a terrorist rant, maybe someone else will buy that crap, not me thanks.

Not gonna touch it, your acceptance of terrorists

I don't accept any terrorists...even federal ones. You'll note that I called Osama a "two bit thug" That is not acceptance...it is just noting that he is small potatoes compared to the big-timel terrorists.

and linking any battle against such terror as terrorists ourselves

Bolded for emphasis.

We are not terrorists, so the pronoun "ourselves" is inaccurate. The terrorists are the people killing and planning the killing. OBL and Bush/Obama. You, me, and the other people in this thread are not killing people, nor threatening to kill people. Therefore we are not terrorists.

troll away on your US is a terrorist rant,

Again, I don't believe the US (people?, land?) is a terrorist. I believe people who kill innocent people are. Those people are in the caves of Afghanistan and in the White House.

see what I mean?

No, I don't. I pointed out specifically where you misunderstood my position in my last post.

So could you explain what you disagree with now?

Tom, what you're not getting is that OBL and Al Qaeda use the same logic to defend their actions as you do to defend US actions.

I have no doubt--with your personality--that if you happened to be born is Saudi Arabia, you'd be militantly defending OBL.

The other thing you're not getting is that this is a gang war to people like me and Vince. So we're not "defending" one side by saying they're both wrong. Just like criticizing democrats doesn't make us republicans and vice versa.

Nope, the two are not even CLOSE to the same, maybe in your warped minds but not the rest of the world. To put the two in the same category only attempts to troll for controversy, aint gonna bite more than I have. I seriously doubt you even think what you are posting is true, simply attempting to irk civilized people, keep trying, nobody can believe you think what you post. Nice try fellas.

WASHINGTON - Libertarian Party Chairman Mark Hinkle issued this statement today:

"I am glad to hear of the death of Osama bin Laden, who had no qualms about slaughtering American civilians.

"Unfortunately, bin Laden leaves behind an evil legacy in the United States: the Department of Homeland Security, the TSA, the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretaps, the 'state secrets' doctrine, and other violations of Americans' civil and economic rights.

"Just like Osama bin Laden, these programs must be terminated.

"President Obama must also end the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. It's time to stop being the world's policeman. It's time to bring all those troops home.

"Our government should also end its foreign aid programs, which create future terrorists by funding many dictators around the world."

So do we ever get our freedoms back, do the civilized people care about such things anymore?

All I hear is more and more emphasis about how we have to keep up all the same efforts because nothing has changed with terrorism.

Why oh why do you guys engage?

GMTom wrote:Nope, the two are not even CLOSE to the same, maybe in your warped minds but not the rest of the world. To put the two in the same category only attempts to troll for controversy, aint gonna bite more than I have. I seriously doubt you even think what you are posting is true, simply attempting to irk civilized people, keep trying, nobody can believe you think what you post. Nice try fellas.

You're right, the US government has killed orders of magnitude more innocent people than Al Queda has. They aren't even in the same league. I'd never suggest that they were even close to the same.

At the risk of engaging in this conversation, Mr. Logan said

That would be up to the individuals who were to bear the cost. Not to irresponsible politicians lining the pockets o their friends in the war and banking industries. Unfortunately, americans were not given the choice as to whether killing Bin Laden was worth the trillions (spent and in future interest payments).

Odds are that the individuals who lost their loved ones voted in favor of this action by electing Mr. Obama. Certainly, Americans as a whole voted for the course of action. Whether you agree with the policy or not, isn't this what we chose to do?

theodorelogan wrote:You're right, the US government has killed orders of magnitude more innocent people than Al Queda has. They aren't even in the same league. I'd never suggest that they were even close to the same.

Do you have actual figures on this? I'm not disputing your claim, but I am curious to see where you are drawing your conclusions from.

These guys are just trolling, they don't even believe the stuff they post.

I think the 2012 election is over before it has even begun. Say what you want, Obama deserves credit for getting accomplished what should have been the main goal from the beginning.

Obama deserves credit?
How so?

I will give him credit for telling the troops to go in and get it done even though it was in Pakistan. Another President may or may not have done the same thing, good for him on that score. But what did he do other than that?