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- bbauska
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11 Sep 2015, 9:30 am
I agree with you George. Ms. Davis was completely out of line, and should have resigned.
My question is what about a pastor who does not want to marry a homosexual couple?
A nurse who does not want to assist with abortions?
A flight attendant who will not serve alcohol?
Why does the government allow for some exemptions, and not allow ALL people to have the choice?
I am asking what exemptions people think should be allowed.
You know what my position is. As long as you are not representing the government, do what you want, and let the market drive you out. What do others think?
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- Sassenach
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11 Sep 2015, 12:22 pm
My question is what about a pastor who does not want to marry a homosexual couple?
A nurse who does not want to assist with abortions?
A flight attendant who will not serve alcohol?
Last I heard, pastors were not obliged by law to preside over gay weddings, so the first question is moot. Most nurses never assist in abortions. My advice to the nurse who doesn't want to be involved in abortion would be to seek out another branch of nursing (ie almost any other branch of nursing). We';ve already covered the flight attendant thing.
Easy.
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- bbauska
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11 Sep 2015, 12:59 pm
Sassenach wrote:My question is what about a pastor who does not want to marry a homosexual couple?
A nurse who does not want to assist with abortions?
A flight attendant who will not serve alcohol?
Last I heard, pastors were not obliged by law to preside over gay weddings, so the first question is moot. Most nurses never assist in abortions. My advice to the nurse who doesn't want to be involved in abortion would be to seek out another branch of nursing (ie almost any other branch of nursing). We';ve already covered the flight attendant thing.
Easy.
Don't take my examples. Use some thought of your own and give me a difficult example of where a person should/shouldn't be allowed to claim a religious exemption.
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11 Sep 2015, 1:40 pm
Well I'm not a big fan of religious exemptions. I agree that priests shouldn't be obliged to preside over gay weddings, but that's an issue that's unlikely to come up. Abortion is another matter altogether. For me, anybody who takes a job in an abortion clinic should be willing to perform abortions. So long as abortion is legal then you really have no choice other than not to take the job.
But honestly, we've covered this issue to death from all angles and I think we all know where we stand by now.
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- georgeatkins
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11 Sep 2015, 2:00 pm
Sassenach wrote:Well I'm not a big fan of religious exemptions. I agree that priests shouldn't be obliged to preside over gay weddings, but that's an issue that's unlikely to come up. Abortion is another matter altogether. For me, anybody who takes a job in an abortion clinic should be willing to perform abortions. So long as abortion is legal then you really have no choice other than not to take the job.
But honestly, we've covered this issue to death from all angles and I think we all know where we stand by now.
Right. Wasn't it Peter that complained to Jesus about whether to pay his taxes and Jesus apparently said something like "What face is on the coins?", "Caesar", "Then render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's". That is, if you drive a taxi and don't want to seat somebody because they offend your religious beliefs, give the taxi to the person who offends you and go home!
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- freeman3
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11 Sep 2015, 2:35 pm
I think you underestimate Brad's determination to beat this dead horse,Sass...if he sees any inconsistency in a poster's position on this topic, he is ready to pounce!
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- bbauska
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11 Sep 2015, 2:37 pm
Fine, I will withdraw any questions of you all without getting any answers. Thank you all for your non answers.

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- freeman3
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11 Sep 2015, 3:03 pm
Oh I am just teasing Brad--sorry. I don't mind the questions.
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- danivon
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11 Sep 2015, 11:31 pm
Hang on, Sass answered a bunch of questions and then you complained that he hadn't added more.
As Chas & Dave once memorably sang, there ain't no pleasin' you...
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11 Sep 2015, 11:37 pm
But here are some exceptions I don't think are unreasonable:
Allowing a Sikh man to wear a turban, a Jewish man to wear a yarmulke, or a Muslim woman to wear a hijab when the normal dress code is not to wear head-coverings (or as an adapted part of a uniform) unless there is a safety issue.
Where a business operates 24/7, allowing people to take a particular day a week as a rest day, be that Friday, Saturday or Sunday if that is what their religion sees as appropriate. But obviously there has to be pragmatism if everyone wants a day off and the business has to operate.
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- bbauska
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12 Sep 2015, 5:48 am
danivon wrote:Hang on, Sass answered a bunch of questions and then you complained that he hadn't added more.
As Chas & Dave once memorably sang, there ain't no pleasin' you...
I was asking for others to give examples. Thank you. Thank you for your examples.