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Post 28 Oct 2012, 1:30 pm

Meh. I will keep the polling stuff in the polling thread.

I'm not worried at all and my reasons will go in the polling thread.

However, what is telling is the sad name-calling the President and his campaign are engaged in. They're using cartoons of Romney in a dunce cap, commercials with children singing anti-Romney songs and even another as with an innuendo-filled pseudo-tramp talking about her "first time."

One campaign is desperate. It's the one with BHO at the top of the ticket.
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Post 28 Oct 2012, 10:16 pm

Doctor Fate wrote: another as with an innuendo-filled pseudo-tramp talking about her "first time.".

I saw that commercial. I heard that Putin ran the same kind of commercial last year. If that is true, I think it is hilarious.
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Post 05 Nov 2012, 10:57 pm

Allow me to go for broke. It's 3 minutes to midnight on Super Tuesday. I will stand by the title of this thread and say that THE ONE has this thing in the bag by a landslide. Here's 10 reasons why:

1. He's got the investors - if it ain't broke, don't fix it says Wall Street. They don't care who's in as long as they can continue making $ and Obama has allowed for that to happen. Most report nearing where they left off several years ago as far as savings are concerned.

2. He's got the young people - idealists

3. He's got the military - any half wit who has been involved with Iraq knows it's a terrible idea to continue with the occupation.

4. He's got the Hispanics - a much more balanced approach to immigration than Romney

5. He's got the gays - no brainer

6. He's got the women - no brainer

7. He's got the blacks - they better get out the vote and they will...if only on 400 years of principle

8. He's got the auto industry - they won't forget, no matter how much $ Romney throws at them to forget.

9. He's got the poor - the poor can't relate to a billionaire or multi-millionaire or whatever Romney is.

10. He's got the entertainment industry - outside of hate radio and hate tv this should be clear.
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Post 05 Nov 2012, 11:17 pm

And polling moving in favor of Obama ( he has the mo) and approval rating over 50 percent as well
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 5:56 am

Landslide?

That will be laughable tomorrow.

If it doesn't happen, I'll laugh.

If it does, I'll laugh. In this case, it will be the laugh of releasing the stress of knowing I've just witnessed the end of the US as a superpower.
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 7:05 am

The US losing its status as a "superpower" ? Militarily whats changed over night? Economically whats changed over night? Nothing.
You've just chosen one President over another. In foreign affairs ROmney would be a unilateralist like Bush, rather than a "facilitator" like Obama. That can lead to big wins or even bigger losses. Like Iraq.
But nothing major changes politcally or eonomically unless somehow the electorate defies the polls and elects a Democratic House. About as likely as a Republican Senate
But I think you are far too close to the picture, and too emotionally involved, to understand what is really going on... Especially economically .It ain't too bad....Here's a view from the major trading partner.

Winner will reap major U.S. economic recovery

Whoever wins America’s presidential contest Tuesday, the U.S. is poised for a powerful economic rebound over the next few years. That’s in sharp contrast with the slow-growth recovery since the start of the Great Recession.
• U.S. job-creation numbers have been improving for months, much faster than one would expect given the severity of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. It’s noteworthy that even construction, the hardest-hit employment sector, added a surprising 20,000 new jobs in October. All sectors except government have been posting increased job-creation numbers since the summer. Indeed, the weak jobs numbers of the summer have since been revised sharply upward. (Initial government statistical reports, in the U.S. and elsewhere, are always subject to revision.)

• The U.S. housing market is recovering and with increased momentum. This is surprising, given the record “overhang” of unsold new and existing homes circa 2009 that economists feared would take a decade for the market to absorb after the record over-building of the 2000s. That in turn is promising sign for Canadian raw materials exports.

• U.S. consumer confidence, as measured by the University of Michigan and lesser-known pulse-takers, has been rising for months. There is tremendous pent-up demand for new vehicles, appliances and other “big ticket” items – purchases that have been long delayed due to consumer worries over job security. Demand for big-ticket and other goods and services will begin soaring, in contrast with today’s tepid rate of growth, in 2014 if not earlier. That will boost Southern Ontario auto production, 85 per cent of it destined for the U.S. market.

• Obamacare is here to stay. Democrats will successfully thwart any effort to revoke it, as GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney vows to do, simply by filibustering to death any bid to scrap it. Again by 2014, the cost-efficiency provisions of Obamacare will begin to have their impact in reducing the frightful increase in state healthcare spending.

• By the same means, a President Romney would be denied his proposed ruinous $5 trillion in tax cuts over the next decade. That will further improve America’s fiscal condition, as will increased income and payroll tax revenues from steadily higher job creation.

• Foreign capital inflows, for new-plant construction in the U.S. and a continued high level of U.S. Treasury and other debt sales to offshore investors, will rise as the Eurocrisis and the Asian economic slowdown continue. This will keep the U.S. dollar strong, and capital- and consumer-goods imports cheap, lowering the expense of U.S. business expansion and consumers’ cost of living.

• Fears of a “fiscal cliff” immediately following the election are exaggerated. Cohorts of a President Romney, who control the Congress, would not play chicken with Romney as they did last year with President Obama, causing the U.S. to lose its Triple A debt rating. A re-elected Barack Obama would finesse the issue of rolling over America’s debt, partly with a trade-off (backing away from his proposed defence-budget cuts, for instance) and partly because the GOP doesn’t want a replay of international black eye it got for playing partisan politics with the “full faith and credit” of the U.S. for the first time in the country’s history.

• In modern times, U.S. presidents who have inherited dreadful economic conditions yet secured re-election have overseen economic booms in their second terms. That was the case for both Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. As it happens, Clinton’s unprecedented job-creation record of 23 million is precisely the number of Americans currently unemployed and “under-employed,” working temp or part-time jobs.

It’s worth noting that at this time last year, BMO Economics’ survey of Canadian business owners found that stagnant U.S. economic conditions was their top worry. In this year’s poll, released Monday, the U.S. economy ranks a mere 6th among Canadian business owners’ worries.

And who will win?

As noted in this space since Aug. 13 (“Obama presidency looks secure”), Obama has been the Electoral College favourite and the leader in most “swing states” for months, albeit by a small margin. What is still at this late date described as a toss up – “U.S. election hangs on a knife edge,” says the U.K. Financial Times – would be close to a lock for the president even if voters didn’t traditionally move toward the incumbent in a contest’s closing days. The New York Times electoral blog FiveThirtyEight.com on Monday gives Obama an 83.6 per cent likelihood of winning.

Reagan won re-election with a 7.5 per cent jobless rate, just shy of the current 7.9 per cent - itself a major improvement over the Great Recession peak of close to 11 per cent. Today might not be 1984’s “Morning in America,” but Americans finally can see sun through parting clouds.


http://www.thestar.com/business/article ... very-olive
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 8:48 am

DF was predicting the end of the US as a superpower if Obama won in 2008. In fact, looking around the internet, the predictions from various Republican supporters as to what the US would be like by now are hilarious. The joke clearly gets better with repetition, as it's been going on again.

Some people just have no faith in their nation.
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 9:07 am

danivon wrote:DF was predicting the end of the US as a superpower if Obama won in 2008. In fact, looking around the internet, the predictions from various Republican supporters as to what the US would be like by now are hilarious. The joke clearly gets better with repetition, as it's been going on again.

Some people just have no faith in their nation.


I have a lot of faith in the nation. Many Frenchmen have faith in their nation, yet without a Corsican at the helm, namely Napoleon, they're pretty hopeless.

Leadership matters.

Why do I believe we are on our way to becoming a minor power? Debt. The interest on the Debt, when interest rates go up, will be crushing. Obama has done nothing significant on the issue and has proposed nothing significant on the issue. He doesn't even pretend.

As Krugman loves to point out, interest rates are at historical lows. They can't stay that way perpetually. So, "cheap money" now will become "expensive interest payments" later.

Laugh all you want. In ten years, if the President is reelected, we will be facing monumental decisions and the only answers will be: raise taxes and massively cut the Federal government, particularly the military.

Why do I think Romney will be different? 2 reasons: 1) his business background; 2) his selection of Ryan. Both indicate to me that he understands permanent borrowing is not sustainable.
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 9:56 pm

Once again, I am right.

It looks like Steve you've perhaps placed a little too much credence in the all knowing polls.

The GOP is no longer necessary. They've become redundant. The GOP main players have yet again been undressed for the world to see.

And by the way, it's early. THE ONE will reach 325 electoral votes. What will be interesting is to see how bad he beats Blip Romney on the popular vote.

As I predicted long ago, Blip Romney is now a forgotten blip on the screen of history.
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Post 06 Nov 2012, 10:20 pm

Though I will add that we will see much more of Ryan in the future.
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Post 07 Nov 2012, 1:26 am

Ryan's wife is pretty hot, so hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more of her...
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Post 07 Nov 2012, 5:55 am

Dag, you are being a little over-triumphant. It was not a landslide (although the EC looks like it could be 332-206), but rather a close race with a strong set of tactical results in the key states. The Republicans have the same problem as the Tories do here - large majorities in rural areas which are growing but don't give an advantage when they do.

You were wrong on the popular vote - Obama is likely to be on about 50%. DF did not place too much credence in the polls, he put too much credence on the theory that they were way out.

Mrs Ryan is ok, I guess, in a kind of standard American blonde way, but there is a good chance that Ryan will be in the running for the 2016 candidacy so we will see more of her I guess.

Personally I think Michelle is the best looking of the four wives though.
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Post 07 Nov 2012, 6:55 am

I guess that's what makes the world go round. I like Jill Biden the best.
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Post 07 Nov 2012, 7:33 am

You're right of course. It was not a landslide. I thought for sure THE ONE would win by an 8% spread. So yes, I was right about THE ONE being re-elected but definitely wrong about the margin.
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Post 07 Nov 2012, 9:25 am

dag hammarsjkold wrote:Once again, I am right.

It looks like Steve you've perhaps placed a little too much credence in the all knowing polls.

The GOP is no longer necessary. They've become redundant. The GOP main players have yet again been undressed for the world to see.

And by the way, it's early. THE ONE will reach 325 electoral votes. What will be interesting is to see how bad he beats Blip Romney on the popular vote.

As I predicted long ago, Blip Romney is now a forgotten blip on the screen of history.


This is, sadly, being replicated on Twitter and Facebook.

Here's the thing: this country has many problems. 4 years from now, history will judge the President.

As for the GOP being redundant, tell that to the Speaker of the House.

Furthermore, there's still an economy to save. If the President does that (and no, he has not done it yet), then you may be right.

On the other hand, let's say the national debt is at $20T or higher, gasoline is $6 a gallon, food prices are higher than ever, unemployment is still an issue, and . . . .

Interest rates start rising . . .

Time will tell.

Good luck to the President.