How long until Iran cheats?

rickyp wrote:fate

How long until Iran cheats?

Without inspections how would one know if they were cheating?

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said President Obama distrusted the military, and “this was particularly true in Afghanistan” in an interview that was taped earlier in the week and broadcast on Thursday’s “Special Report” on the Fox News Channel.

Gates after discussing his doubts that President Obama believed in the mission in Afghanistan, and micromanaging of the military by the Obama administration was asked about the president’s suspicion of the military. He stated, “I think this was particularly true in Afghanistan, and I think there were people in the White House, and I don’t want to name any names, who were constantly goading him and saying the military is trying to box you in. the military is trying to trap you. the military is trying to bully you. The military is trying to make you do something you don’t want to do.”

When asked if Vice President Joe Biden was one of these people, Gates answered, “I think so. And I was told so. And I think — but he was not alone, and you can argue with the options that they were putting forward, as President Bush did. you can disagree with them, as President Bush did. I — that’s totally fair, in my view. But, to think that they are trying to mousetrap you, I think is a — if I were the president and i truly believed that, I would replace those commanders that I felt were trying to trick me. So, I just — I worried a lot that he was hearing from people, things that made him worry that the military was consciously trying to thwart his will, consciously trying to be insubordinate, and I never believed any of that for a second.”

freeman3 wrote:At the end of the day, it's whether Iran gets the bomb and how long it takes them to do it. 0-5 years-- deal was a major failure; 6-10 years--unsuccessful; 10-15 years, moderately successful; over 15 years, successful.

And, the truth is: Obama would suppress any evidence of Iran cheating because it would make him look bad. THAT is all he cares about

The inspectors may find evidence. However, what is more likely is that the Israelis or disaffected Iranians tell us and we confirm it.

rickyp wrote:fate

And, the truth is: Obama would suppress any evidence of Iran cheating because it would make him look bad. THAT is all he cares about

Of course. Because he's a secret Muslim and all that.

fate

The inspectors may find evidence. However, what is more likely is that the Israelis or disaffected Iranians tell us and we confirm it.

I thought this was a joke, but then I realize it comes from someone who disputes basic science often. So of course you have no faith in the ability of scientists and technologists to do their jobs efficiently.

And you have complete faith in Israelis who've been claiming that the Iranians were a couple of months from a bomb for close to twenty years ... Why would they be right the next time they make their claims?