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Post 22 Sep 2015, 6:01 am

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That's why it won't hurt Carson--and only pinheads will attack him, like Lyndsey Graham


If you say so....

Presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz said that his GOP rival Ben Carson was flat-out wrong to say that a Muslim would not qualify to serve in the Oval Office because Islam goes against U.S. values.

Cruz, a Texas Republican, said during a taping of an Iowa Public Television show that basing qualifications for a president on religion is unconstitutional


http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politi ... office-is/

Carson is Chauncey Gardner.
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Post 22 Sep 2015, 6:47 am

rickyp wrote:fate
That's why it won't hurt Carson--and only pinheads will attack him, like Lyndsey Graham


If you say so....

Presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz said that his GOP rival Ben Carson was flat-out wrong to say that a Muslim would not qualify to serve in the Oval Office because Islam goes against U.S. values.

Cruz, a Texas Republican, said during a taping of an Iowa Public Television show that basing qualifications for a president on religion is unconstitutional


http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politi ... office-is/

Carson is Chauncey Gardner.[/quote

It won't hurt him. His polls are dropping because of his passive performance in the debates.

And, Cruz is right--constitutionally. However, Carson was talking about those with religious views in conflict with the Constitution. You know, the kind of people Obama defends--like the Iranian mullahs. Those kind of religious views, Carson is saying, should not be in the Oval office.
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Post 22 Sep 2015, 8:07 am

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like the Iranian mullahs.


Is there a significant danger of this happening? Have any of them announced their intention to Dr. Carson to run for the Presidency of the USA? Perhaps they know their citizenship and place of birth excludes them even though Carson may not.

This is the broader context for Carson's remarks: many grassroots Republicans see Islam as not just suspicious but a clear and present danger to America, and think the media and the political establishment are too bound by political correctness to admit it — much less fight it. What Carson said on Meet the Press is proof that he isn't.


The extent to which Islam is a threat to the US is greatly exaggerated by demagogues. Carson revealed himself as both ignorant of the Constitution and a soft spoken demagogue.
He has a significant constituency within the republican party but a hard ceiling for potential support across the general populace.
Demagogue's appeal ends when it reaches the rationale portion of the populace.
The question remains whether either Carson or Trump can gain the republican nomination with their brands of demagoguery. Pale imitations, who express their views less clearly, like Walker and Cruz, or those who will not rise to challenge the demagoguery are certainly having a hard time gaining any oxygen with the republican base.
It remains to be seen what the state of the party will be once a nominee is finally settled upon.
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Post 22 Sep 2015, 8:41 am

rickyp wrote:Fate
like the Iranian mullahs.


Is there a significant danger of this happening? Have any of them announced their intention to Dr. Carson to run for the Presidency of the USA? Perhaps they know their citizenship and place of birth excludes them even though Carson may not.


No, which is why the question was stupid in the first place--and Carson was foolish to take it as a legitimate question.

This is the broader context for Carson's remarks: many grassroots Republicans see Islam as not just suspicious but a clear and present danger to America, and think the media and the political establishment are too bound by political correctness to admit it — much less fight it. What Carson said on Meet the Press is proof that he isn't.


The extent to which Islam is a threat to the US is greatly exaggerated by demagogues. Carson revealed himself as both ignorant of the Constitution and a soft spoken demagogue.


That's an opinion.

On the other hand, thousands of American civilians have been killed by Islamic extremists. Tens of thousands of Muslims have been killed by Islamic extremists. Millions of Muslims have been displaced and terrorized by Islamic extremists. These same extremists are "inspiring" Muslims in the US to commit atrocities and they are promising to attack again and again. That's not demagoguery. It's fact.

In the meantime, our balance of power remains out of balance. Have a bad day.
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Post 22 Sep 2015, 7:55 pm

Carson is Chauncey Gardner


ROFL I love that movie! :laugh:
Peter Sellers is the man!
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Post 23 Sep 2015, 12:27 am

Doctor Fate wrote:
danivon wrote:
Doctor Fate wrote:And, frankly, polls are only as good as the questions asked. I would note this curiosity: Which group is President Obama most hostile toward: Christians or Muslims? The answer is obvious--and decidedly uncomfortable for liberals.
Hmm, who is getting bombed in Syria at the moment? And Muslims have the same opposition to gay marriage that Christians do.


No, no they don't. In Muslim majority countries being a homosexual is punishable, often by death. Please direct me to some Christian majority countries in which death is the punishment for homosexuality.
Yes, the objection is the same, they just have the political will to go further than Christians do. Of course, in Uganda recently, Christians tried to institute the death penalty for homosexuality.

But you miss my point: OBAMA is ordering the bombing of Muslims. Which Christians is he ordering the bombing of?
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danivon wrote:Yes, the objection is the same, they just have the political will to go further than Christians do.


Right. So, two points: you admit Islam is political. Thank you. Also, would you rather receive jail time or be executed?

Trying to draw a moral equivalent between Islam and Christianity on this point is laughable. Homosexuals ARE being executed in Islamic countries. Please point to a government in a predominately Christian country wherein homosexuals are being sentenced to death.

Of course, in Uganda recently, Christians tried to institute the death penalty for homosexuality.


Which I pointed out. Thanks for paying attention.

But you miss my point: OBAMA is ordering the bombing of Muslims. Which Christians is he ordering the bombing of?


He's also saving Muslims. He's not doing much for the Christians being exterminated like vermin.

And, you missed my point: domestically, he has been attacking Christians over and over, while he snuggles with Muslims. Just look at the high school "bomber" the other day. He invited the kid, who built what looked like a bomb, to the White House. Under zero tolerance policies, innumerable WORSE cases have come up. On which of them has Obama made such proclamations? The little kid who ate a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun and was suspended? The little kid suspended for using his thumb and forefinger as "a gun?"

No.

No, he chose the son of an activist, who apparently didn't even actually "build" a clock, yet chose to adapt a timing device into a brief case. Apparently, he took it to two teachers before he finally got the reaction he (apparently) wanted.

Obama hates Christianity and tolerates Islam. He is the quintessential secular atheist who merely says he is a Christian.
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Post 23 Sep 2015, 2:05 pm

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Obama hates Christianity and tolerates Islam


This guy?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabi ... interview/

Read the part where he's "born again".
So I joined that church and committed myself to Christ in that church.
GG:
Did you actually go up for an altar call?
OBAMA:
Yes. Absolutely.
It was a daytime service, during a daytime service. And it was a powerful moment. Because, ti was powerful for me because it not only confirmed my faith, it not only gave shape to my faith, but I think, also, allowed me to connect the work I had been pursuing with my fait
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Post 23 Sep 2015, 2:48 pm

rickyp wrote:fate
Obama hates Christianity and tolerates Islam


This guy?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabi ... interview/

Read the part where he's "born again".
So I joined that church and committed myself to Christ in that church.
GG:
Did you actually go up for an altar call?
OBAMA:
Yes. Absolutely.
It was a daytime service, during a daytime service. And it was a powerful moment. Because, ti was powerful for me because it not only confirmed my faith, it not only gave shape to my faith, but I think, also, allowed me to connect the work I had been pursuing with my fait
h.

Liars lie. He is a liar.

His actions since taking office speak far more loudly than a 2004 interview.