Theoretically, this is kinda cool: where the people actually rose up and threw off their established leader and chose a new one. Keeps the leaders accountable, and it's usually a good thing to stir the pot every now and again. I guess my only real problem with this comes down to politics, and the differences I have with the good people of Richmond Virginia, especially over immigration, which was apparently the issue Cantor lost over.

Maybe there are just a lot of vegetarians in Virginia...

Doctor Fate wrote:I have no idea, although I don't think he was dishonest--as you seem to. The odds are probably about 10-1 that he wins the district (inow, he's heavily favored).

the odds that a monkey in a beenie hat would win the District as the Republican candidate must be not much worse. It is the safest Republican district in Va. Brat didn't change that either way, so appealing to that is irrelevant.

If you want to say the MSNBC thing makes him unfit for office, it's your right. However, neither you nor I will vote. And, I suspect you're likely to be disappointed. That breaks my heart.

Oh, I expect him to be elected. Boobs and idiots get elected all the time. So do crooks. So do hypocrites, backers of terrorism, bigots, lobby fodder, egotists, single-issue candidates, etc etc.

Not sure where this guy sits, if at all. But he's as flawed as any other politician.

freeman3 wrote:Maybe there are just a lot of vegetarians in Virginia...

Or, maybe they prefer Kosher politics . . .

danivon wrote:

Doctor Fate wrote:I have no idea, although I don't think he was dishonest--as you seem to. The odds are probably about 10-1 that he wins the district (inow, he's heavily favored).

the odds that a monkey in a beenie hat would win the District as the Republican candidate must be not much worse. It is the safest Republican district in Va. Brat didn't change that either way, so appealing to that is irrelevant.

Yeah, what a stooge! I mean nearly everyone has a PhD in economics, right? I mean, he probably went to some backwater, white bread, right-wing, low-standard school for his doctorate, right?

Oh, American University?

American University is rated "Most Selective", by the Princeton Review, with an admissions selectivity rating of 94 (on a scale of 60–99).[41] American University enrolls about 1,500 freshmen each year,[42][43] with a middle 50% GPA of 3.6–4.1 and middle 50% SAT score of 1220–1390 (critical reading and mathematics only).[44] The average class size is 23 and the student-faculty ratio is 14:1.[42] AU is ranked 75th among "national universities" by the US News & World Report a college and university rankings guide,[

. . . American University is especially known for promoting international understanding.[8] This is reflected in the diverse student body who is from more than 150 countries, the university’s course offerings, the faculty's research, and from the regular presence of world leaders on its campus.[8] American University has the 12th largest number of graduates in current Peace Corps service (34), and ranks fourth in the number of Peace Corps volunteers as a percentage of the total undergraduate population.

http://www.graduateshotline.com/study/economics.html

I guess no one who ever says anything dumb should ever run for office.

So, you'll be all in against Hillary then?

Doctor Fate wrote:

freeman3 wrote:Maybe there are just a lot of vegetarians in Virginia...

Or, maybe they prefer Kosher politics . . .

Oh, I just got this! Talk about slow on the uptake! Holy cow! ;-)

Not bad, DF...by the way, Brat used probably the biggest strawman ever...you can see it referenced in the following video from John Oliver (who is very funny and has a show on HBO)
http://www.alternet.org/immigration/joh ... ly-one-one

Doctor Fate wrote:

danivon wrote:

Doctor Fate wrote:I have no idea, although I don't think he was dishonest--as you seem to. The odds are probably about 10-1 that he wins the district (inow, he's heavily favored).

the odds that a monkey in a beenie hat would win the District as the Republican candidate must be not much worse. It is the safest Republican district in Va. Brat didn't change that either way, so appealing to that is irrelevant.

Yeah, what a stooge! I mean nearly everyone has a PhD in economics, right? I mean, he probably went to some backwater, white bread, right-wing, low-standard school for his doctorate, right?

I never said he was a stooge. Quit twisting my words.

I'm well aware he's a PhD, and is well respected (which is why I find it odd that he can't express an opinion on the federal minimum wage, remember?). I was making a point about the seat, not about the candidate.

Cantor would win it hands down. Brat would win it hands down. Anyone standing for the Republicans would win it hands down (from an economics professor to a meathead). It was not saying that he is anything less than he is, it's that the Republicans could put up who they like (just as the Democrats could in some of their safe seats).

Your point was that Brat is fine because he will win, as if that disproves what he actually said when asked clear direct questions in an interview. My rejoinder is that the safeness of the seat means however good he is will be outweighed by the sheer volume of in-the-bag Republican votes in the district.

So that he will win does not prove he was not being disingenuous when asked straightforward questions.

I guess no one who ever says anything dumb should ever run for office.

It wasn't "dumb", it was evasive. And he can run, He can even have office. I can have an opinion on him and express it.

So, you'll be all in against Hillary then?

I can think of better Democrat candidates (from my point of view), but no better Republican ones. I will probably be hoping for a miracle for whoever stands on the SPUSA ticket, and then that the lesser of the two big evils actually wins. I won't be particularly enthusiastic for Hillary or against her.

But you have the false memory that I was all agog for Obama. And still am. Not agreeing with you that he's the root of all problems in the USA is not quite the same thing as being a devotee.

danivon wrote:

Doctor Fate wrote:

danivon wrote:

Doctor Fate wrote:I have no idea, although I don't think he was dishonest--as you seem to. The odds are probably about 10-1 that he wins the district (inow, he's heavily favored).

the odds that a monkey in a beenie hat would win the District as the Republican candidate must be not much worse. It is the safest Republican district in Va. Brat didn't change that either way, so appealing to that is irrelevant.

Yeah, what a stooge! I mean nearly everyone has a PhD in economics, right? I mean, he probably went to some backwater, white bread, right-wing, low-standard school for his doctorate, right?

I never said he was a stooge. Quit twisting my words.

Right. ". . . monkey in a beenie hat" was not about him. Sure. Okay.

I'm well aware he's a PhD, and is well respected (which is why I find it odd that he can't express an opinion on the federal minimum wage, remember?). I was making a point about the seat, not about the candidate.

"Can't" or "Did not?"

If you believe "can't," then we're back to the "monkey" thing. I'm confident he "can." I cannot tell you why he did not.

Your point was that Brat is fine because he will win, as if that disproves what he actually said when asked clear direct questions in an interview.

Quit twisting my words

Nope. My point is that he will win, but that's disconnected from disproving anything else. Ever notice politicians frequently fail to answer questions? Maybe he's just practicing and isn't good at it yet. Neither you nor I know why he did not answer it, but that he lacks the ability is a supposition you cannot come close to proving.

So that he will win does not prove he was not being disingenuous when asked straightforward questions.

You have nothing to prove his being "disingenuous" either. The simple answer is that it's just not a question he wanted to answer at that time. Why not? Who knows? Tired? To exhilarated to suffer a fool like Chuck Todd? Who knows?

I can have an opinion on him and express it.

And, be as wrong as you like!